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Jonathan Chait

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
338 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

It was a gigantic scandal, but it wasn't going into his pocket and he wasn't pardoning criminals.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

I mean, it was like, you know, 1% as bad as this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

But that was on front pages for months and months.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

Agreed.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

I've been very critical.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

I've written some critical stories about Barry Weiss's tenure at CBS.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

And the context that you simply can't ignore is the obvious ones, and I'm sure your audience is well aware of it, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

Is that there was a merger involving Paramount, and the payoff to this merger approval is essentially Barry Weiss being put in charge of CBS and changing its ideological character.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

So...

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

All the people who are trying to defend her tenure there are just focusing on the discrete steps of like, hey, maybe this story she held up needed more approval, or maybe this person she pushed out wasn't that great, or maybe this person she wants to put into the job has some good ideas.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

The individual decisions aren't the point.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

The point is the corrupt circumstances under which she is there as part of a payoff to the president.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

That is the story.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

So I just imagined as a kind of

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

counterfactual that you have an AOC as a Democratic president, and she somehow leverages the ownership of Fox News and finds some business pressure point for Rupert Murdoch and says, if you want this business deal to go through, I want some changes at Fox News.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

And the changes I came up with were to put you in charge of Fox News.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

Correct.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

Tim Miller.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

I'm not drawing an equivalent between you and Barry Weiss.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People

I think Barry Weiss is talented, not as talented as you.