Jonathan Chait

But I was thinking of someone who was just kind of an ideological apostate, right?

She was kind of a liberal who's kind of realigned on the right and you're kind of the opposite.

Sure.

So she kind of calls herself a centrist or a former liberal or whatever she is.

But functionally, she's on the right side now.

And functionally, even if you still have your Republican DNA, you're on the left of center, coalitionally anyway.

Right.

Right.

No, no.

The conservatives would would be out in the streets.

They would I mean, they would they would say that, you know, the government has fallen that this is the worst dictatorial act in the history of the United States of America.

And instead, they're simply acting as if it's it's not even worthy of discussion that that you can defend what's going on at CBS without even referencing that fact.

That's right.

I mean, and that was the Orban playbook, right?

That you leverage the high points of business and media and you make sure that your loyalists control all those spots.

And they're literally following this step by step.

So it's incredibly serious and incredibly concerning.

And the fact that CBS isn't Fox News now, that it's still doing real reporting is –

I suppose, slightly reassuring, but that doesn't mean the process by which they've arrived at this is legitimate.

And it doesn't mean we shouldn't be afraid about where it's going.