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Jonathan Cheng

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194 total appearances

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3 Takeaways™
The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

It's amazing.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

Certainly compared to South Korea, North Korea is lagging very, very, very far behind.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

Now, there was a time when the two Koreas were roughly at parity, but that would have been back in the 70s and the 80s, because the strength of a Stalinist system did allow North Korea to make some advances in the early years.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

But by the 80s and the 90s, it was not a close battle anymore.

3 Takeaways™
The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

And today, South Korea is far, far, far ahead of North Korea.

3 Takeaways™
The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

That said...

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

In the capital, Pyongyang, where Kim Jong-un is and where the elites live, there are pockets of wealth there.

3 Takeaways™
The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

And there are places where the elite can feel comfortable and can say to themselves, maybe our standard of living is not up to what it might be in other countries, but it's pretty good.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

And it's good enough that I don't feel a need to run away or to rebel or to try anything foolish like that.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

I have enough buy-in in the system.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

Now, if you're on the edges of society in North Korea, I think it's a woeful and miserable experience indeed.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

And I don't know that I would recommend it to anyone.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

But I do think that partly because they simply don't have much of an awareness of where they stand relative to other countries around the world.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

I think in some senses, there may just be a feeling that, well, life is hard.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

But life is hard everywhere.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

And I'm going to make do with what I have, despite the fact that it is true that there are compatriots on the southern half of the Korean Peninsula, even on the margins of society in South Korea, are doing far better.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

But if they don't know, I suppose that there's some bliss in that ignorance, perhaps.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

I think the biggest mistakes are to treat them as if they are willing to give up their system or to give up key planks in their system, whether it be their nuclear program, whether it be their control over their populace.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

I don't think the Kim family is interested in that at all.

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The Religious Cult Behind North Korea’s Power (#303)

I don't know that there is a more clever way to get North Korea to engage.