Jonathan Courtney

My eight sleep hates when I do this.

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I'm with you.

I'm with you.

I'm with you.

Fuck, man. There's so many things you just said that we need to talk to your audience about here. That's amazing. Two things. One, you did something that I don't even know if you know there's a label for. There's this when you're reaching out to people who are, let's say, who in this case, you were trying to reach up to this person.

Fuck, man. There's so many things you just said that we need to talk to your audience about here. That's amazing. Two things. One, you did something that I don't even know if you know there's a label for. There's this when you're reaching out to people who are, let's say, who in this case, you were trying to reach up to this person.

Fuck, man. There's so many things you just said that we need to talk to your audience about here. That's amazing. Two things. One, you did something that I don't even know if you know there's a label for. There's this when you're reaching out to people who are, let's say, who in this case, you were trying to reach up to this person.

There's this concept, and I think it was Daniel Priestley, again, I keep referencing this guy, who came up with this concept of with or without you energy.

There's this concept, and I think it was Daniel Priestley, again, I keep referencing this guy, who came up with this concept of with or without you energy.

There's this concept, and I think it was Daniel Priestley, again, I keep referencing this guy, who came up with this concept of with or without you energy.

With or without you... That's true. I didn't actually think about that. That's probably where it came from. So this idea of with or without you energy, when you reach out to someone, you don't want to be like... What's his name again? Not Bono. What's his name? John Rossman? John... Whatever. The Wheatus guy, right? Wheatus? Weezer? Weezer? Rivers Cuomo? The guy... Rivers... John Waters?

With or without you... That's true. I didn't actually think about that. That's probably where it came from. So this idea of with or without you energy, when you reach out to someone, you don't want to be like... What's his name again? Not Bono. What's his name? John Rossman? John... Whatever. The Wheatus guy, right? Wheatus? Weezer? Weezer? Rivers Cuomo? The guy... Rivers... John Waters?

With or without you... That's true. I didn't actually think about that. That's probably where it came from. So this idea of with or without you energy, when you reach out to someone, you don't want to be like... What's his name again? Not Bono. What's his name? John Rossman? John... Whatever. The Wheatus guy, right? Wheatus? Weezer? Weezer? Rivers Cuomo? The guy... Rivers... John Waters?

All right. Like... Okay. So... So you reach out to Rivers. And if you were like, hey, love your music, whatever, love your art. Can I come visit you? He'd probably be like, go. That's weird. But if you already say that... The important thing is you're kind of like, I am there. That is something I already do. And it would be something that is just on my way. It's on my journey.

All right. Like... Okay. So... So you reach out to Rivers. And if you were like, hey, love your music, whatever, love your art. Can I come visit you? He'd probably be like, go. That's weird. But if you already say that... The important thing is you're kind of like, I am there. That is something I already do. And it would be something that is just on my way. It's on my journey.

All right. Like... Okay. So... So you reach out to Rivers. And if you were like, hey, love your music, whatever, love your art. Can I come visit you? He'd probably be like, go. That's weird. But if you already say that... The important thing is you're kind of like, I am there. That is something I already do. And it would be something that is just on my way. It's on my journey.

That makes it seem less intense for people. One example of this for me... It's a bit weird to mention this online or on the podcast, but I think he wouldn't mind it. I really wanted to meet Noah Kagan and just saying, I'm in Austin. Not like a week before or two weeks before. Just, I'm here right now. And I was also looking around what he's looking for. He wanted help with his YouTube channel.