Jonathan Gillen

Uh, when I talk about these free loops,

it's not a, it's not huge growth.

It's, you know, I want to know the paid ones.

So we're, we're not spending a lot of money, which is a pretty exciting thing.

But if you, if you want to factor everything in, I'd say it costs about 50 bucks to get a space.

And that's from a Facebook ad that says, you know, make money or a Craigslist ad.

gig post that we have someone in, you know, the Ukraine posting every day, uh, you know, that kind of thing.

Yeah.

That's, that's, uh,

We've got, uh, you know, two years of runway.

Got it.

Um, I've uh, it's embarrassing.

I've been, I've been getting paid like 64 K. Okay.

Why is that embarrassing?

Uh, well, cause I know a lot of founders who, um, want to pay themselves 150 K.

And, um, I've gotten used, so used to, um, you know, having nothing in my savings account and, uh, that, that I think I'm, I'm kind of unique there.

Although I'm not the only one I know about it, but I wear my, uh, my brokenness as a badge of pride because I've, I've, I've invested a lot in my future.

That's good.

That's good.

Although, uh, pretty soon I think I'm going to be getting a raise, but, uh,