Jonathan Goldstein

at the university in Montreal, Concordia, with such high hopes.

Because from a very young age, I was always writing and making plays and making radio plays and forcing my friends into performing in them.

And I applied, put together what I thought was my best work, and I applied to this creative writing program.

And the guy, the professor running the program, rejected me, and I couldn't understand why, and I made a meeting with him.

And he said that someone that wrote the way that I did needed a therapist more than they needed a creative writing program, which was probably true.

But it was still like a very heavy thing to hear at like 18, you know.

But it was all like nuts.

I mean, like young men are crazy.

Or at least me and my friends, I mean, we were just nuts.

We were just really pushing boundaries and, you know, loved Hunter S. Thompson and Jack Kerouac.

No, I was just depressed on top of that.

Yeah, that was just a whole other side project.

Yeah, in various dark places.

You know, very caught up in, like, what's it all about.

I had, like, during my teen years, like, a foray into becoming a religious person.

And then kind of losing my faith and feeling – that brought on a really heavy depression.

I wanted to believe and I just couldn't figure my way into it.

And yeah, just like from a very young age, just very caught up in the big questions, I guess.

And not that that's necessarily a formula for depression.

Yeah.