Jonathan Goldstein

And this is coming from someone who does not, unfortunately for me, like have an easy laugh.

Being in the business that I am in, it would be a nice signal to somebody of like, hey, I'm enjoying you.

But I think, yeah, all kinds of different laughs.

It lets me feel like the person isn't taking me too seriously.

Yeah.

I feel dangerous when I'm being taken too seriously.

I kind of feel like I shouldn't be taken too seriously and I feel like my old friends don't take me that seriously.

Like my friend Jackie, who opens the show, who I phone, who has a very endearing, distinct, kind of insane laugh.

I like hearing it.

It makes me feel like... It makes me feel free to say all kinds of really dumb things, you know?

Because I feel like I'm not hurting anybody when I hear the laugh.

Yeah.

It's a signal that I'm not hurting anybody.

And I think...

That's a biggie.

I have a friend who told me a while ago, he's like, is this stupid?

I go through life just always being afraid that I'm going to get yelled at.

And I was like, no, I think I relate to that.

You're afraid that you're going to hurt somebody, get yelled at, or yeah, you just want to feel like you're not messing anything up.

And I don't know.