Jonathan Haidt
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That I can't say. We loved the elementary school that my kids went to. It was just wonderful. We can't imagine anything better. Some of the private schools got really deeply into ideological stuff in the 2010s. And so that was part of our decision in New York City was like, there's no school we could send them to in New York. We don't want them exposed to all that, the political stuff. Mm-hmm.
But I think the schools are loosening up now. And again, that's just elite schools in New York City, although LA is probably pretty similar. So I can't weigh in on that question.
But I think the schools are loosening up now. And again, that's just elite schools in New York City, although LA is probably pretty similar. So I can't weigh in on that question.
But I think the schools are loosening up now. And again, that's just elite schools in New York City, although LA is probably pretty similar. So I can't weigh in on that question.
Yeah. TikTok is the most dangerous overall because that's the one that very effectively destroys attention. I can't, you know, again, it's not everybody, but a third of all kids, teens, say they're on social media almost all the time. So it's always in the hand. And TikTok is the most common of those apps. So I think TikTok... has destroyed more IQ points than anybody else.
Yeah. TikTok is the most dangerous overall because that's the one that very effectively destroys attention. I can't, you know, again, it's not everybody, but a third of all kids, teens, say they're on social media almost all the time. So it's always in the hand. And TikTok is the most common of those apps. So I think TikTok... has destroyed more IQ points than anybody else.
Yeah. TikTok is the most dangerous overall because that's the one that very effectively destroys attention. I can't, you know, again, it's not everybody, but a third of all kids, teens, say they're on social media almost all the time. So it's always in the hand. And TikTok is the most common of those apps. So I think TikTok... has destroyed more IQ points than anybody else.
With that said, Snapchat has probably led to more deaths. So when kids die, it's usually from a drug overdose. They buy drugs on Snapchat, disappearing messages. So it's very easy to find drugs on Snapchat. And so cyberbullying and fentanyl are two ways that kids die from social media. And that, I think, I'm not certain, but I believe that's more Snapchat than Instagram or TikTok.
With that said, Snapchat has probably led to more deaths. So when kids die, it's usually from a drug overdose. They buy drugs on Snapchat, disappearing messages. So it's very easy to find drugs on Snapchat. And so cyberbullying and fentanyl are two ways that kids die from social media. And that, I think, I'm not certain, but I believe that's more Snapchat than Instagram or TikTok.
With that said, Snapchat has probably led to more deaths. So when kids die, it's usually from a drug overdose. They buy drugs on Snapchat, disappearing messages. So it's very easy to find drugs on Snapchat. And so cyberbullying and fentanyl are two ways that kids die from social media. And that, I think, I'm not certain, but I believe that's more Snapchat than Instagram or TikTok.
Those are the big three. There are other companies. Oh, I should just say, Pinterest is wonderful. The CEO of Pinterest, Bill Reddy, he reached out to me right after the book came out and he said, I love what you're doing. I agree with you. When he took over from a couple of years ago, He spontaneously turned off social features for under-16s.
Those are the big three. There are other companies. Oh, I should just say, Pinterest is wonderful. The CEO of Pinterest, Bill Reddy, he reached out to me right after the book came out and he said, I love what you're doing. I agree with you. When he took over from a couple of years ago, He spontaneously turned off social features for under-16s.
Those are the big three. There are other companies. Oh, I should just say, Pinterest is wonderful. The CEO of Pinterest, Bill Reddy, he reached out to me right after the book came out and he said, I love what you're doing. I agree with you. When he took over from a couple of years ago, He spontaneously turned off social features for under-16s.
That is, he said, if a 12-year-old wants to get on Pinterest and look for fabric patterns or ways to decorate her room, great, let her on. But if she wants to be talking with strangers, text, you know, no, there's no reason. So he did that, didn't have to do it. The share price went down a bit at first because people thought, oh, he's going to lose market share. But guess what?
That is, he said, if a 12-year-old wants to get on Pinterest and look for fabric patterns or ways to decorate her room, great, let her on. But if she wants to be talking with strangers, text, you know, no, there's no reason. So he did that, didn't have to do it. The share price went down a bit at first because people thought, oh, he's going to lose market share. But guess what?
That is, he said, if a 12-year-old wants to get on Pinterest and look for fabric patterns or ways to decorate her room, great, let her on. But if she wants to be talking with strangers, text, you know, no, there's no reason. So he did that, didn't have to do it. The share price went down a bit at first because people thought, oh, he's going to lose market share. But guess what?
Safety is actually something that a lot of people want. And so since Pinterest, I never hear stories about girls whose lives were ruined by Pinterest. All the other three, yes. So my point is, it's not the screens per se, and it's not social media per se, but talking with strangers who are unverified and are often not who they say, this is just completely insane that we do this.
Safety is actually something that a lot of people want. And so since Pinterest, I never hear stories about girls whose lives were ruined by Pinterest. All the other three, yes. So my point is, it's not the screens per se, and it's not social media per se, but talking with strangers who are unverified and are often not who they say, this is just completely insane that we do this.
Safety is actually something that a lot of people want. And so since Pinterest, I never hear stories about girls whose lives were ruined by Pinterest. All the other three, yes. So my point is, it's not the screens per se, and it's not social media per se, but talking with strangers who are unverified and are often not who they say, this is just completely insane that we do this.
So that has to stop. And that's primarily happening on Snapchat, Instagram, and TikTok.