Jonathan Haidt

Yes.

That's right. That's exactly right. So Jean Twenge is a professor in California at the University of San Diego. I'm sorry, San Diego State University. And she's a friend of mine. And

That's right. That's exactly right. So Jean Twenge is a professor in California at the University of San Diego. I'm sorry, San Diego State University. And she's a friend of mine. And

That's right. That's exactly right. So Jean Twenge is a professor in California at the University of San Diego. I'm sorry, San Diego State University. And she's a friend of mine. And

When I was writing The Coddling of the American Mind, I was talking about overprotection, but I noticed, Greg Lukianoff, my co-author, we noticed that social media might have something to do with this, but we didn't know. We didn't know. It was 2017.

When I was writing The Coddling of the American Mind, I was talking about overprotection, but I noticed, Greg Lukianoff, my co-author, we noticed that social media might have something to do with this, but we didn't know. We didn't know. It was 2017.

When I was writing The Coddling of the American Mind, I was talking about overprotection, but I noticed, Greg Lukianoff, my co-author, we noticed that social media might have something to do with this, but we didn't know. We didn't know. It was 2017.

And then Jean's book comes out, iGen, and she's got graph after graph showing just what Zach just said, that all the mental health problems, they all sort of track the degree to which kids are spending time on smartphones. in social media. Now, what Gene showed is what's called correlation. That is, this happened and this happened at the same time.

And then Jean's book comes out, iGen, and she's got graph after graph showing just what Zach just said, that all the mental health problems, they all sort of track the degree to which kids are spending time on smartphones. in social media. Now, what Gene showed is what's called correlation. That is, this happened and this happened at the same time.

And then Jean's book comes out, iGen, and she's got graph after graph showing just what Zach just said, that all the mental health problems, they all sort of track the degree to which kids are spending time on smartphones. in social media. Now, what Gene showed is what's called correlation. That is, this happened and this happened at the same time.

And in the sciences and in medicine, that's the starting point for an investigation. Like, okay, these two things happened together. Did one cause the other? We don't know. We can't be sure. Lots of other things happened in the early 2010s. Maybe it's something else.

And in the sciences and in medicine, that's the starting point for an investigation. Like, okay, these two things happened together. Did one cause the other? We don't know. We can't be sure. Lots of other things happened in the early 2010s. Maybe it's something else.

And in the sciences and in medicine, that's the starting point for an investigation. Like, okay, these two things happened together. Did one cause the other? We don't know. We can't be sure. Lots of other things happened in the early 2010s. Maybe it's something else.

And so what Jean and I have both been doing since then is collecting the evidence that it was the phone-based childhood, growing up on a phone, is what caused the mental health and other problems. And we think we've got a lot of different kinds of evidence. I'll tell you, one of the most shocking kinds of evidence is... The words of the companies themselves.

And so what Jean and I have both been doing since then is collecting the evidence that it was the phone-based childhood, growing up on a phone, is what caused the mental health and other problems. And we think we've got a lot of different kinds of evidence. I'll tell you, one of the most shocking kinds of evidence is... The words of the companies themselves.

And so what Jean and I have both been doing since then is collecting the evidence that it was the phone-based childhood, growing up on a phone, is what caused the mental health and other problems. And we think we've got a lot of different kinds of evidence. I'll tell you, one of the most shocking kinds of evidence is... The words of the companies themselves.

There's a lot that's come out because so many parents have lost their kids to suicide, cyberbullying, drug overdoses from fentanyl-laced drugs that they got on social media. So all these parents are suing Meta and Snapchat and TikTok, and a lot of documents have come out from those lawsuits. And so my group and our substack, our blog at afterbabble.com,

There's a lot that's come out because so many parents have lost their kids to suicide, cyberbullying, drug overdoses from fentanyl-laced drugs that they got on social media. So all these parents are suing Meta and Snapchat and TikTok, and a lot of documents have come out from those lawsuits. And so my group and our substack, our blog at afterbabble.com,

There's a lot that's come out because so many parents have lost their kids to suicide, cyberbullying, drug overdoses from fentanyl-laced drugs that they got on social media. So all these parents are suing Meta and Snapchat and TikTok, and a lot of documents have come out from those lawsuits. And so my group and our substack, our blog at afterbabble.com,

We've collected just TikTok in its own words. And it is absolutely shocking what they said in their internal emails and their internal reports. They know that their product is addictive. It was designed to be addictive. They know that it's shattering kids' attention. It was designed to grab every little bit of consciousness it could.