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Jonathan Haidt

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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

As soon as they moved on to Instagram, they're the ones who got much more depressed and anxious, or at least that's where it was concentrated. And so I think it is some of these ideas about victimhood that became so popular on campus in the 2010s that are disempowering.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

I would agree with that. From my book, The Righteous Mind, the subtitle is Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion. And the analysis that I give there is that we evolved as tribal creatures. The key that religion does for us is actually creates a community. So I follow a sociologist, Emile Durkheim, is my favorite thinker of all time.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

I would agree with that. From my book, The Righteous Mind, the subtitle is Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion. And the analysis that I give there is that we evolved as tribal creatures. The key that religion does for us is actually creates a community. So I follow a sociologist, Emile Durkheim, is my favorite thinker of all time.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

I would agree with that. From my book, The Righteous Mind, the subtitle is Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion. And the analysis that I give there is that we evolved as tribal creatures. The key that religion does for us is actually creates a community. So I follow a sociologist, Emile Durkheim, is my favorite thinker of all time.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

He said the purpose of a religion is to create, to bind together a group in a moral order that then constrains us. And we can find meaning and connection within that. And when you don't have that constraint, when you can do whatever you want, that's the state he called anomie or normlessness. And that I think is part of what hit

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

He said the purpose of a religion is to create, to bind together a group in a moral order that then constrains us. And we can find meaning and connection within that. And when you don't have that constraint, when you can do whatever you want, that's the state he called anomie or normlessness. And that I think is part of what hit

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

He said the purpose of a religion is to create, to bind together a group in a moral order that then constrains us. And we can find meaning and connection within that. And when you don't have that constraint, when you can do whatever you want, that's the state he called anomie or normlessness. And that I think is part of what hit

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

A lot of kids in the early 2010s, there's no clear guide for anything. The hedonic treadmill. And if it's just getting pleasure and then you adapt. And so that's why I think we see that finding that I told you about earlier, which is all of a sudden my life feels useless. And it goes from 9% to about 20% of American teenagers are agreeing because their lives are useless.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

A lot of kids in the early 2010s, there's no clear guide for anything. The hedonic treadmill. And if it's just getting pleasure and then you adapt. And so that's why I think we see that finding that I told you about earlier, which is all of a sudden my life feels useless. And it goes from 9% to about 20% of American teenagers are agreeing because their lives are useless.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

A lot of kids in the early 2010s, there's no clear guide for anything. The hedonic treadmill. And if it's just getting pleasure and then you adapt. And so that's why I think we see that finding that I told you about earlier, which is all of a sudden my life feels useless. And it goes from 9% to about 20% of American teenagers are agreeing because their lives are useless.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

All they're doing is consuming content.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

All they're doing is consuming content.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

All they're doing is consuming content.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

The day you give your kid a touchscreen device, a smartphone or an iPad is the day that that will become the most interesting thing for him or her. It's like having BF Skinner in a box because it can show you something and then you behave, you get rewarded. So it can train you much more than a television ever could. And of course, they're going to have those eventually.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

The day you give your kid a touchscreen device, a smartphone or an iPad is the day that that will become the most interesting thing for him or her. It's like having BF Skinner in a box because it can show you something and then you behave, you get rewarded. So it can train you much more than a television ever could. And of course, they're going to have those eventually.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

The day you give your kid a touchscreen device, a smartphone or an iPad is the day that that will become the most interesting thing for him or her. It's like having BF Skinner in a box because it can show you something and then you behave, you get rewarded. So it can train you much more than a television ever could. And of course, they're going to have those eventually.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

But I'm trying to say, let's clear it out of middle school. I'm really interested and focused, especially on early puberty. So we're on 11 to 13. Let's clear it out of that. The key to the four norms is that they're all collective solutions. It's really hard for a parent to say, no, sweetie, you can't have a smartphone. I'm going to give

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

But I'm trying to say, let's clear it out of middle school. I'm really interested and focused, especially on early puberty. So we're on 11 to 13. Let's clear it out of that. The key to the four norms is that they're all collective solutions. It's really hard for a parent to say, no, sweetie, you can't have a smartphone. I'm going to give

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

But I'm trying to say, let's clear it out of middle school. I'm really interested and focused, especially on early puberty. So we're on 11 to 13. Let's clear it out of that. The key to the four norms is that they're all collective solutions. It's really hard for a parent to say, no, sweetie, you can't have a smartphone. I'm going to give

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

You're the only kid. The other kids are going to make fun of you. You're going to be left out. So that's a very painful choice and most parents don't make it. And so it ends up that all the kids have a smartphone. It's now going down into elementary school. So your girls are how old now? 10 and 12. Do they have any kind of phone?