Jonathan Haidt
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We advocate for viewpoint diversity among professors. We think that we shouldn't all think the same. We shouldn't all be on the left and progressive. And every year since 2015, things got worse and worse and worse. And especially 2020 with COVID, then especially George Floyd, a lot of progressive ideas got supercharged. Ibram Kendi became the patron saint. Everything was about anti-racism.
We advocate for viewpoint diversity among professors. We think that we shouldn't all think the same. We shouldn't all be on the left and progressive. And every year since 2015, things got worse and worse and worse. And especially 2020 with COVID, then especially George Floyd, a lot of progressive ideas got supercharged. Ibram Kendi became the patron saint. Everything was about anti-racism.
So that's when things really became completely bonkers. Not just on campus, but in journalism, in museums, firing all the white guides. Just crazy stuff was happening 2021, 22. Many businesses went that way, but businesses have to actually make money. And so by 2022, a lot of businesses were rolling it back. They're saying, whoa, this stuff is terrible. This is not...
So that's when things really became completely bonkers. Not just on campus, but in journalism, in museums, firing all the white guides. Just crazy stuff was happening 2021, 22. Many businesses went that way, but businesses have to actually make money. And so by 2022, a lot of businesses were rolling it back. They're saying, whoa, this stuff is terrible. This is not...
making life better for members of minorities. This is actually just turning everyone against everyone. We all hate this. So business has begun definitely moving away from all this stuff. Universities, we're not really moving away until December 5th. I think December 5th, that hearing was so humiliating for higher ed. I think a lot of us feel much freer now. We feel like, you know what?
making life better for members of minorities. This is actually just turning everyone against everyone. We all hate this. So business has begun definitely moving away from all this stuff. Universities, we're not really moving away until December 5th. I think December 5th, that hearing was so humiliating for higher ed. I think a lot of us feel much freer now. We feel like, you know what?
The intersectional, the sort of the people who will destroy your reputation if you question them. They're on the defensive now. We don't hear much from Ibn Kendi anymore. We don't hear him referred to very much anymore. So I think that at least even on campus, the pendulum is swinging. I was afraid it wasn't a pendulum. I was afraid it was more like a tower that just falls faster and faster.
The intersectional, the sort of the people who will destroy your reputation if you question them. They're on the defensive now. We don't hear much from Ibn Kendi anymore. We don't hear him referred to very much anymore. So I think that at least even on campus, the pendulum is swinging. I was afraid it wasn't a pendulum. I was afraid it was more like a tower that just falls faster and faster.
But I do think, because the great majority of professors and presidents are true liberals. They're on the left, but they believe in free speech. They're not illiberal. What I think has happened on the far left and the far right, we have illiberalism. So the far left is not liberal. The far right is not conservative.
But I do think, because the great majority of professors and presidents are true liberals. They're on the left, but they believe in free speech. They're not illiberal. What I think has happened on the far left and the far right, we have illiberalism. So the far left is not liberal. The far right is not conservative.
And most of us, the 70% in the middle, are actually pretty reasonable people who could live together, but we're all afraid of the extremes. But we're less afraid of the extremes now than we were a year ago.
And most of us, the 70% in the middle, are actually pretty reasonable people who could live together, but we're all afraid of the extremes. But we're less afraid of the extremes now than we were a year ago.
You have to look institution by institution. And so in institutions that are governed, that are dominated by the left, and that is all the knowledge creating institutions. So it's journalism, the arts, media, universities, most of the scientific establishment, other than the hard sciences. In all those areas, yes, I think the left took it too far.
You have to look institution by institution. And so in institutions that are governed, that are dominated by the left, and that is all the knowledge creating institutions. So it's journalism, the arts, media, universities, most of the scientific establishment, other than the hard sciences. In all those areas, yes, I think the left took it too far.
You know, we went into a point where everything like chemistry has to be about anti-racism and, you know, everything has to be about race. And that was just kind of nuts. And so I think there is a kind of a move to a more common sense view.
You know, we went into a point where everything like chemistry has to be about anti-racism and, you know, everything has to be about race. And that was just kind of nuts. And so I think there is a kind of a move to a more common sense view.
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