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Jonathan Haidt

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so really thinking about how are we going to be able to live with this technology?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

I love Jonathan Stantz's to say, out, AI companions, done.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

For kids, yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

Totally agree.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

But in terms of adults, like how do we manage that for adults, you know?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so my work focuses – right now what I'm doing is I'm spending – I've spent the year talking to every – as many AI researchers who are working on these models or who are doing research on the downstream effects of these models.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And when I say that it is dark and dystopian, it has profoundly changed something in me and it has influenced my mental health.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

I had to take a step away from just – because I couldn't believe what I was learning.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So I spoke to one of the scientists who told me that there's the echo chamber phenomenon in social media, right, where we all know what that is.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

It's like it's a fragmented world because of social and you're engaging and then you get the same – the algorithm feeds you the same kind of thoughts that you already have.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

But particularly now with AI chatbots, when you're engaging with your chatbot, even just talking about it, I'm getting chills.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

It's the echo chamber of one.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So it's you speaking to you.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

It's like the funhouse mirror.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And then it's giving you a response.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And then you're talking and it's giving you a response.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

But people, regular users who are using AI chatbots think that it's wise, compassionate, nonjudgmental, unbiased, empathetic, these human attributes.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so...

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

The echo chamber of one is kind of one idea that really frightened me.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And the second one was the drift phenomenon.