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Jonathan Haidt

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

The drift phenomenon is this idea that you are engaging with your chatbot and it's engaging with you and it's actively changing your beliefs through the drift.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So you might start off as one belief.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

Yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And then you're talking and through this amplification funhouse mirror effect, it slowly shifts your belief to something altogether different.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

You've heard cases of it in the news where people start, you have a plumbing problem.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

You go to your AI chatbot, you ask them how to fix your sink.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And then you're like, you know what?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

Can you tell me about the meaning of life?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And then you start talking about that.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And before you know it, you have these theories and you're getting that validation.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so a lot of my work over the past year

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

has been, you know, digging into the science of what is going on in the brain.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

How are you forming, not us particularly at this table, but millions of people are forming a sense of attachment, a therapeutic connection with their chatbot.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

They're, you know, giving names to it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And it's an entity.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so how does that happen?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And how is it going to replace human to human connection?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so it terrifies me.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

I've also gone through some AI therapy myself just to see what would happen.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

It was very interesting.