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Jonathan Haidt

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So that's like one strategy you could use.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And the other is to set some boundaries.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So geographical boundaries, keep your phone out of your arm's reach.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

If you're at a desk, if you're a student, not right next to you because we know there's this phenomenon of brain drain.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So it's not just that when you're using your phone, it can have a potential distraction, but also just having it close by.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

It's called brain drain.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so putting it in a desk drawer, keeping it in another part of the home if you are working, keeping it far away from you.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so you kind of can override that primal ursula scroll that your prefrontal cortex take hold again.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And so there's all these small tweaks that you can do.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

You think now.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

And then, you know, based on the science, there are certain elements.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

Like when we think about what is it about the phone that is creating that sense of compulsion, Jonathan is right.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So what is it about the phone?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

It's not just the phone.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

You know, you're scrolling.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

You're engaging.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

There are two studies that were really interesting.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

One, people got off of – they continued to use their devices.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

They had no internet.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Brain Rot Emergency: These Internal Documents Prove They’re Controlling You!

So it's like, you know, I tried this experiment myself in December.