Jonathan Hearn
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I got on a life raft like we were talking about earlier. You know, we wanted to show what his lifeboat looked like. And so we got an almost exact replica of the lifeboat that Nathan was in. And we had to get on the life boat, life raft to show what it looked like. And I got in there and let me tell you, I was in there for maybe 20 minutes and I was done. It was hot. It was wet.
I got on a life raft like we were talking about earlier. You know, we wanted to show what his lifeboat looked like. And so we got an almost exact replica of the lifeboat that Nathan was in. And we had to get on the life boat, life raft to show what it looked like. And I got in there and let me tell you, I was in there for maybe 20 minutes and I was done. It was hot. It was wet.
It was uncomfortable. You know, it... The swells weren't even that bad, but yes, you still start to get a little queasy. And Nathan reported there were 13-foot waves at some point. So that was another area that investigators looked to about why this story might have seemed suspicious when he was rescued a week later. Nathan seemed in pretty good health. He did not have extensive sun exposure.
It was uncomfortable. You know, it... The swells weren't even that bad, but yes, you still start to get a little queasy. And Nathan reported there were 13-foot waves at some point. So that was another area that investigators looked to about why this story might have seemed suspicious when he was rescued a week later. Nathan seemed in pretty good health. He did not have extensive sun exposure.
He did not have, you know, water exposure from sitting in standing water.
He did not have, you know, water exposure from sitting in standing water.
He seemed relatively healthy. And, you know, there are survival experts who were deposed who said there is no way this would happen. You know, FBI, Coast Guard investigators, they all did not believe his story. And just from my own experience being on that life raft for 20 minutes, I was ready to get out. I like adventure.
He seemed relatively healthy. And, you know, there are survival experts who were deposed who said there is no way this would happen. You know, FBI, Coast Guard investigators, they all did not believe his story. And just from my own experience being on that life raft for 20 minutes, I was ready to get out. I like adventure.
I like doing, this is what I live for, kind of doing these fun, these interesting things. And that was not fun. So it really gave me a very intimate insight into what his experience might have been like.
I like doing, this is what I live for, kind of doing these fun, these interesting things. And that was not fun. So it really gave me a very intimate insight into what his experience might have been like.
Well, yes, getting police interviews or, you know, depositions, but especially police interviews are... are a really great way to take the viewer into the story. You get to see this person, whoever's being interviewed, reacting on the spot in sort of high pressure situations, and the viewer can just decide what they think of it on the spot.
Well, yes, getting police interviews or, you know, depositions, but especially police interviews are... are a really great way to take the viewer into the story. You get to see this person, whoever's being interviewed, reacting on the spot in sort of high pressure situations, and the viewer can just decide what they think of it on the spot.
In this case, Nathan is interviewed extensively by the Windsor police in relation to the murder of his grandfather. John Chocolos, and the night John Chocolos was murdered, Nathan was meeting his mother for a different fishing trip, and he was an hour late meeting his mother.
In this case, Nathan is interviewed extensively by the Windsor police in relation to the murder of his grandfather. John Chocolos, and the night John Chocolos was murdered, Nathan was meeting his mother for a different fishing trip, and he was an hour late meeting his mother.
Yeah, he was supposed to meet her at three. He didn't get there until four, and he claims he got lost. and he got lost on roads that he had been driving for years. So you get to hear investigators question him about this and see his reaction. And I would say he seems rather nervous. Now, he's a teenage kid getting questions by police. And again, we talked about his autism spectrum.
Yeah, he was supposed to meet her at three. He didn't get there until four, and he claims he got lost. and he got lost on roads that he had been driving for years. So you get to hear investigators question him about this and see his reaction. And I would say he seems rather nervous. Now, he's a teenage kid getting questions by police. And again, we talked about his autism spectrum.
So viewers can watch it and decide, does this seem credible? There's another really fascinating piece of video in a deposition in a subsequent lawsuit that his family, the Slayer lawsuit that this family brings against him. And he ends up taking the fifth 81 times, which is of course his legal right.
So viewers can watch it and decide, does this seem credible? There's another really fascinating piece of video in a deposition in a subsequent lawsuit that his family, the Slayer lawsuit that this family brings against him. And he ends up taking the fifth 81 times, which is of course his legal right.