Jonathan Hearn

He represented himself.

He represented himself.

Himself in this lawsuit, he represented himself. But yeah, I mean, 81 times taking the fifth, meaning, you know, he didn't want to answer to avoid incriminating himself. It just gives additional context and it lets you into the story and understand what was happening.

Himself in this lawsuit, he represented himself. But yeah, I mean, 81 times taking the fifth, meaning, you know, he didn't want to answer to avoid incriminating himself. It just gives additional context and it lets you into the story and understand what was happening.

Yes, it's a lawsuit saying you can't inherit money from someone who you had a part in. killing, basically. So Nathan's aunts bring this against him. You know, the family dynamics of this are... They're quite interesting.

Yes, it's a lawsuit saying you can't inherit money from someone who you had a part in. killing, basically. So Nathan's aunts bring this against him. You know, the family dynamics of this are... They're quite interesting.

She sure did. You know, the same thing actually reminded me of the Succession family a little bit from the HBO show. John Chaklos was worth about $40 million, maybe more. He was a real estate developer, owned and operated nursing homes. And he spent a lot of money on his family. And it seemed like there was constantly this sort of bickering and fighting for love and attention and...

She sure did. You know, the same thing actually reminded me of the Succession family a little bit from the HBO show. John Chaklos was worth about $40 million, maybe more. He was a real estate developer, owned and operated nursing homes. And he spent a lot of money on his family. And it seemed like there was constantly this sort of bickering and fighting for love and attention and...

Yeah, especially between Linda and John, they would fight over Nathan. As I said, John was sort of grooming Nathan to possibly become a part of his business, and he just doted on him as the first grandson. It actually came to blows at some point. The police were called. Yeah, physical fight. Physical fight, the police were called. So just a very dynamic, tumultuous family.

Yeah, especially between Linda and John, they would fight over Nathan. As I said, John was sort of grooming Nathan to possibly become a part of his business, and he just doted on him as the first grandson. It actually came to blows at some point. The police were called. Yeah, physical fight. Physical fight, the police were called. So just a very dynamic, tumultuous family.

And then they would come back together. And John Chaklos, he was telling his nephew that he wanted Nathan to repair things with his mother. Nathan and his mother would have a tumultuous relationship as well. He was living in a trailer apartment. on her property and then eventually moved out.

And then they would come back together. And John Chaklos, he was telling his nephew that he wanted Nathan to repair things with his mother. Nathan and his mother would have a tumultuous relationship as well. He was living in a trailer apartment. on her property and then eventually moved out.

And these fishing trips that they did were one of the real ways they bonded, one of the only ways they could connect.

And these fishing trips that they did were one of the real ways they bonded, one of the only ways they could connect.

Exactly. I think they both did, but it was difficult.

Exactly. I think they both did, but it was difficult.

Three different generations, the grandfather, the mother, and Nathan all died. And, you know, Charlene says it's not over. And it really isn't for this family. I think there's a lot of unhealed wounds. Nathan's charges were dismissed. And the John Chocolos case is still active. So no one's had any closure on that.

Three different generations, the grandfather, the mother, and Nathan all died. And, you know, Charlene says it's not over. And it really isn't for this family. I think there's a lot of unhealed wounds. Nathan's charges were dismissed. And the John Chocolos case is still active. So no one's had any closure on that.

Also, the John Chaklis's money is still being working its way through probate court. So I think it's it's it's been difficult for this family to to find closure, move on this.

Also, the John Chaklis's money is still being working its way through probate court. So I think it's it's it's been difficult for this family to to find closure, move on this.