Jonathan Herzog

We spent a year and a half building the foundation, getting this really businessman and entrepreneur from anonymity.

and Rogan was on the calendar for early of 2019 and

Um, yeah, it was really at that moment where, um, we said we, we found product market fit.

And so Muhant has kind of laid out these five distinct phases of the campaign mapping out, uh, the, you know, almost three years of its progression.

But at that point there were no such thing as precinct captains.

There were no such thing as even other team members in, in, in Iowa.

Interesting.

The like day in the life essentially looked on average, you know, I would get up,

let's say 5 a.m., drive three hours to a local union hall, church, school, democratic club meeting.

There might be eight to 10 candidates, again, depending, you know, let's say early.

At the same meeting?

Yeah, yeah.

So you basically have these like cattle calls.

So Amy Klobuchar would speak, Pete Buttigieg would speak, Eric Swalwell.

Again, there were literally 26 different campaigns at that point.

And then I would get up and speak, make the Yang pitch,

You know, get people to sign up, hand out swag, answer questions.

you know, speak to some of the press and then pack up shop, drive three hours, do the same thing in a different city halfway across the state.

And that's what building person to person counted the county event by event looked like in the early days.

Yeah, so there are a lot of factors in terms of the nitty-gritty of the caucus process.