Jonathan Kieperman (Lomez)

And, you know, we could come up with all sorts of likes.

And, you know, we could come up with all sorts of likes.

OK, so, yes. So what what are we trying to do? So we're trying to revive what is a genuine right wing cultural and ideological. I hate the word movement because it's it's not quite that. But but a right wing that can form an enduring and meaningful counterweight to.

OK, so, yes. So what what are we trying to do? So we're trying to revive what is a genuine right wing cultural and ideological. I hate the word movement because it's it's not quite that. But but a right wing that can form an enduring and meaningful counterweight to.

A dominant left and a dominant sort of progressive march that we've seen taking place over the course of, let's just say, the post-war period, certainly from, you know, the 90s and the end of the Cold War up until now. And the premise there is. is that the conservatism that came before, I was recently looking at a picture online of a book called Young Guns featuring Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor.

A dominant left and a dominant sort of progressive march that we've seen taking place over the course of, let's just say, the post-war period, certainly from, you know, the 90s and the end of the Cold War up until now. And the premise there is. is that the conservatism that came before, I was recently looking at a picture online of a book called Young Guns featuring Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor.

I am familiar with this cover. Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, and Kevin McCarthy. Yeah, Kevin McCarthy. Okay, so that's the image. of the sort of failed conservative movement that what this new set of figures and cultural texts are trying to replace.

I am familiar with this cover. Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, and Kevin McCarthy. Yeah, Kevin McCarthy. Okay, so that's the image. of the sort of failed conservative movement that what this new set of figures and cultural texts are trying to replace.

Oh, yeah. No, that's absolutely right. I think you hit the primary people, the primary figures, and you're capturing what the sort of zeitgeist is here, for lack of a better term. And it's still sort of being developed. And I'd be lying to you if I said that I had some intentional project here or some intentional aesthetic that I was trying to cultivate with this. But

Oh, yeah. No, that's absolutely right. I think you hit the primary people, the primary figures, and you're capturing what the sort of zeitgeist is here, for lack of a better term. And it's still sort of being developed. And I'd be lying to you if I said that I had some intentional project here or some intentional aesthetic that I was trying to cultivate with this. But

So the idea is that the future is discovered. OK, we're not going to be able to predict ahead of time what this new sort of culture will look like. It is throwing these ingredients out there based on a kind of shared understanding at the highest level of abstraction, some kind of alignment that at least for now is Is defined in opposition of both the left.

So the idea is that the future is discovered. OK, we're not going to be able to predict ahead of time what this new sort of culture will look like. It is throwing these ingredients out there based on a kind of shared understanding at the highest level of abstraction, some kind of alignment that at least for now is Is defined in opposition of both the left.

OK, and like wokeness, which is easy, but it's also defined in some sense in opposition to the conservatism that has come before. Not because it's antagonistic towards that kind of conservatism per se, but that that kind of conservatism is. Right.

OK, and like wokeness, which is easy, but it's also defined in some sense in opposition to the conservatism that has come before. Not because it's antagonistic towards that kind of conservatism per se, but that that kind of conservatism is. Right.

And so, you know, and this is a lot of the frustration that people have had with the right is any time anyone on the conservative side goes to make some kind of art or do culture. It's just bad. And the left is right about this. You know, there's been, at least for my lifetime, this critique that the right can't do art, that the right can't do culture.

And so, you know, and this is a lot of the frustration that people have had with the right is any time anyone on the conservative side goes to make some kind of art or do culture. It's just bad. And the left is right about this. You know, there's been, at least for my lifetime, this critique that the right can't do art, that the right can't do culture.

It's not it's not historically true, but at least right in the last 30, 40 years. OK, so it's I think partly it's fear of the unknown. It's a lack of tolerance for artistic. license and the messiness and chaos of what is entailed by the creative process.

It's not it's not historically true, but at least right in the last 30, 40 years. OK, so it's I think partly it's fear of the unknown. It's a lack of tolerance for artistic. license and the messiness and chaos of what is entailed by the creative process.

And, you know, it's just the case that if you are going to embark on a new cultural project, you have to have some amount of of taste for offense and. Okay, I'll say this. There's probably three aspects to why conservative art is bad or has been bad. And this is reductive, of course, but this might help sort of frame things. It's moralistic. Okay, it's much too moralistic. It's didactic.

And, you know, it's just the case that if you are going to embark on a new cultural project, you have to have some amount of of taste for offense and. Okay, I'll say this. There's probably three aspects to why conservative art is bad or has been bad. And this is reductive, of course, but this might help sort of frame things. It's moralistic. Okay, it's much too moralistic. It's didactic.