Jonathan Kieperman (Lomez)

Sort of maybe more vague terms, but it's essentially an explanation and exploration of what I perceive as a kind of over feminization of society. And I don't mean that that is it's explicitly women who are taking over society because often the long house is managed by men. And in some cases, it's better managed by men or more sort of severely and strictly managed by men.

Sort of maybe more vague terms, but it's essentially an explanation and exploration of what I perceive as a kind of over feminization of society. And I don't mean that that is it's explicitly women who are taking over society because often the long house is managed by men. And in some cases, it's better managed by men or more sort of severely and strictly managed by men.

social management that is distinct from a kind of male or masculine coded social management and group dynamics. Maybe a phrase is like a regime of maternal surveillance is a phrase I've used before that preferences, for example, inclusion,

social management that is distinct from a kind of male or masculine coded social management and group dynamics. Maybe a phrase is like a regime of maternal surveillance is a phrase I've used before that preferences, for example, inclusion,

Conflict avoidance, consensus, safety, and these kinds of priorities supersede things like truth finding and competition and the kinds of violent often, and I don't mean necessarily physically violent, but it can be that, but a kind of combativeness that That better characterizes a kind of masculine way of thinking about ideas.

Conflict avoidance, consensus, safety, and these kinds of priorities supersede things like truth finding and competition and the kinds of violent often, and I don't mean necessarily physically violent, but it can be that, but a kind of combativeness that That better characterizes a kind of masculine way of thinking about ideas.

And again, you know why this gets back to certain other things we've talked about is the longhouse is essentially flattening. It's horizontal, whereas masculine way of doing things in this model is hierarchical. It's vertical. And what a more combative style of discourse, for example, does is help establish those hierarchies and where the value of ideas are relative to one another.

And again, you know why this gets back to certain other things we've talked about is the longhouse is essentially flattening. It's horizontal, whereas masculine way of doing things in this model is hierarchical. It's vertical. And what a more combative style of discourse, for example, does is help establish those hierarchies and where the value of ideas are relative to one another.

The longhouse doesn't allow for that because it's more interested in making sure everybody's feelings are maintained and nobody's offended.

The longhouse doesn't allow for that because it's more interested in making sure everybody's feelings are maintained and nobody's offended.

Yeah. So this this comes from Bronze Age pervert, Bronze Age mindset, which is one of the great texts of the 21st century. And I encourage all the New York Times listeners to read it. It's very important if you actually want to understand this stuff.

Yeah. So this this comes from Bronze Age pervert, Bronze Age mindset, which is one of the great texts of the 21st century. And I encourage all the New York Times listeners to read it. It's very important if you actually want to understand this stuff.

So he talks about the longhouse and he's got his own take on it. I borrowed the term and actually why I think the term is so valuable is because it is a kind of empty signifier. I don't mean to tie it to this sort of historical context. It's an evocative image. It's this big, long, okay, literal house that we're all stuck inside of. And you're constrained in how you can behave, how you can act.

So he talks about the longhouse and he's got his own take on it. I borrowed the term and actually why I think the term is so valuable is because it is a kind of empty signifier. I don't mean to tie it to this sort of historical context. It's an evocative image. It's this big, long, okay, literal house that we're all stuck inside of. And you're constrained in how you can behave, how you can act.

And I think it's hostile towards men in particular having a kind of freedom of assembly with one another.

And I think it's hostile towards men in particular having a kind of freedom of assembly with one another.

Well, and that can probably be the most sort of salient example of this, precisely because it's where you would at least expect this kind of long housed cultural framing to take root is the military. And actually, Pete Hegg says has talked about this explicitly, is this integration of women into the military? We don't need to get into the politics of that.

Well, and that can probably be the most sort of salient example of this, precisely because it's where you would at least expect this kind of long housed cultural framing to take root is the military. And actually, Pete Hegg says has talked about this explicitly, is this integration of women into the military? We don't need to get into the politics of that.

Suffice to say, though, that these traditionally male spaces, you know, sort of our martial culture has been now open to women. And this introduces new norms. It just has to in order for it to work. And this is going to necessarily sort of change and I would argue degrade the culture of masculinity that preceded it.

Suffice to say, though, that these traditionally male spaces, you know, sort of our martial culture has been now open to women. And this introduces new norms. It just has to in order for it to work. And this is going to necessarily sort of change and I would argue degrade the culture of masculinity that preceded it.