Jonathan McRae

This is true.

Can you do that with apples?

Could we have an apple-pear thing or an apple-orange mix?

Or is there limitations to the sort of breeding mix that you can make happen?

It sounds like your friend did not have the diligence that you had, Kate.

You're out there putting 6,000 trees in the ground every single day.

This guy just had a few goes and was like, yeah, no, that's not going to work.

Honestly, I mean, the fact that he even managed to get something sounds like there's huge potential there.

So spin out, we've identified the spin out now.

So, Kate, let's go back to the real world for a moment, if we can.

So this sun flare is a new type of variety that's come out of your breeding program.

So you've basically bred this together.

We haven't talked about CRISPR.

We might talk about it in a while.

But let's just talk about just natural breeding and crossbreeding.

So it takes you a long time.

You found something called the sun flare.

What is special about this particular breed?

So why Sunflare?

Yeah.