Jonathan Ross

And if they have access to your data, not even your data, it could be your next door neighbor's data. Your next door neighbor might put something in there that accidentally gives information away that makes you more vulnerable. Now the CCP has something. Maybe you had some package delivered and they put a complaint somewhere and whatever.

Like you might not even do it yourself, but other people around you, the health data of a spouse, right?

Like you might not even do it yourself, but other people around you, the health data of a spouse, right?

Like you might not even do it yourself, but other people around you, the health data of a spouse, right?

Yes, but I don't think it's DeepSeek that's doing it. So you have to understand any company that operates in China and Hong Kong, the one country, two systems thing didn't quite work out as anticipated or maybe as anticipated, but not as stated. They have no choice. In 2016, when Grok started, we decided that we were not going to do business in China. This was not a geopolitical decision.

Yes, but I don't think it's DeepSeek that's doing it. So you have to understand any company that operates in China and Hong Kong, the one country, two systems thing didn't quite work out as anticipated or maybe as anticipated, but not as stated. They have no choice. In 2016, when Grok started, we decided that we were not going to do business in China. This was not a geopolitical decision.

Yes, but I don't think it's DeepSeek that's doing it. So you have to understand any company that operates in China and Hong Kong, the one country, two systems thing didn't quite work out as anticipated or maybe as anticipated, but not as stated. They have no choice. In 2016, when Grok started, we decided that we were not going to do business in China. This was not a geopolitical decision.

This was purely commercial. And what it was, was we kept seeing companies like Google, Meta fail over and over again, trying to win in China. The formula is actually pretty simple. You're not allowed to make net money. You're allowed to spend more money in China. But the moment that you start to become profitable or anywhere near profitable, all of a sudden there's a thumb on the scale.

This was purely commercial. And what it was, was we kept seeing companies like Google, Meta fail over and over again, trying to win in China. The formula is actually pretty simple. You're not allowed to make net money. You're allowed to spend more money in China. But the moment that you start to become profitable or anywhere near profitable, all of a sudden there's a thumb on the scale.

This was purely commercial. And what it was, was we kept seeing companies like Google, Meta fail over and over again, trying to win in China. The formula is actually pretty simple. You're not allowed to make net money. You're allowed to spend more money in China. But the moment that you start to become profitable or anywhere near profitable, all of a sudden there's a thumb on the scale.

Companies that manufacture a lot in China and send more money to China can actually be successful there. They can sell things there. Yeah, it's a pretty simple formula. You must send more money to China than you take out. But at the same time, they also require that you hand over all data. And not only that, they also require that certain answers be in a form that they find acceptable.

Companies that manufacture a lot in China and send more money to China can actually be successful there. They can sell things there. Yeah, it's a pretty simple formula. You must send more money to China than you take out. But at the same time, they also require that you hand over all data. And not only that, they also require that certain answers be in a form that they find acceptable.

Companies that manufacture a lot in China and send more money to China can actually be successful there. They can sell things there. Yeah, it's a pretty simple formula. You must send more money to China than you take out. But at the same time, they also require that you hand over all data. And not only that, they also require that certain answers be in a form that they find acceptable.

So, for example, one of the more common ways ones that you see about deep seek right now is when you ask about Tiananmen Square, if the temperature is low on the model and temperature, we don't need to get into that. It's complicated, but it's how like low means low creativity. Then it's actually going to give you an answer that basically says, I don't want to talk about that.

So, for example, one of the more common ways ones that you see about deep seek right now is when you ask about Tiananmen Square, if the temperature is low on the model and temperature, we don't need to get into that. It's complicated, but it's how like low means low creativity. Then it's actually going to give you an answer that basically says, I don't want to talk about that.

So, for example, one of the more common ways ones that you see about deep seek right now is when you ask about Tiananmen Square, if the temperature is low on the model and temperature, we don't need to get into that. It's complicated, but it's how like low means low creativity. Then it's actually going to give you an answer that basically says, I don't want to talk about that.

It's a sensitive topic, but you ask it about other things that are sensitive topics elsewhere in the world. And it'll just answer. But what happens if the CCP requires that they start to say, what about TikTok? Should it be banned? Absolutely not. Here's why. And it gives you a cogent reason. That's kind of scary.

It's a sensitive topic, but you ask it about other things that are sensitive topics elsewhere in the world. And it'll just answer. But what happens if the CCP requires that they start to say, what about TikTok? Should it be banned? Absolutely not. Here's why. And it gives you a cogent reason. That's kind of scary.

It's a sensitive topic, but you ask it about other things that are sensitive topics elsewhere in the world. And it'll just answer. But what happens if the CCP requires that they start to say, what about TikTok? Should it be banned? Absolutely not. Here's why. And it gives you a cogent reason. That's kind of scary.

Yeah. And worse. So we up until recently refused to run any Chinese models and we had to make a very difficult decision on DeepSeek. We now have it on our API at Grok.