Jonathan Ross

Now the models are being given away for free. How much are we going to spend on inference? And now with the test time compute, I've asked questions of DeepSeq where it took 18,000 intermediate tokens before it gave me the answer.

I mean, it just makes sense, right? You don't train to become, you know, a cardiovascular surgeon and then that's what you do for 95% of your life and then you perform 5%. It's the opposite. You train for a little and then you do it for the rest of your life.

I mean, it just makes sense, right? You don't train to become, you know, a cardiovascular surgeon and then that's what you do for 95% of your life and then you perform 5%. It's the opposite. You train for a little and then you do it for the rest of your life.

I mean, it just makes sense, right? You don't train to become, you know, a cardiovascular surgeon and then that's what you do for 95% of your life and then you perform 5%. It's the opposite. You train for a little and then you do it for the rest of your life.

I don't know what the solution is. There's carrot and there's stick, right? So you can either use a stick, block it. That might be effective. I don't know that the U.S. has really done that before. There's also the carrot, which is it's kind of interesting how it's being offered for free in China and not just in China, but to anyone else. And then others are doing that, too.

I don't know what the solution is. There's carrot and there's stick, right? So you can either use a stick, block it. That might be effective. I don't know that the U.S. has really done that before. There's also the carrot, which is it's kind of interesting how it's being offered for free in China and not just in China, but to anyone else. And then others are doing that, too.

I don't know what the solution is. There's carrot and there's stick, right? So you can either use a stick, block it. That might be effective. I don't know that the U.S. has really done that before. There's also the carrot, which is it's kind of interesting how it's being offered for free in China and not just in China, but to anyone else. And then others are doing that, too.

Is it possible the CCP is underwriting that because they want the data? Dude, they're doing it with the car industry.

Is it possible the CCP is underwriting that because they want the data? Dude, they're doing it with the car industry.

Is it possible the CCP is underwriting that because they want the data? Dude, they're doing it with the car industry.

The thing is, we have a lesson from the Cold War, which was mutually assured destruction. The problem is we do some sort of tariff and then we do a tariff back. There needs to be some sort of automated response of like, if you do this, we will respond. If you subsidize this industry, we will automatically subsidize the equivalent industry. Just automatic.

The thing is, we have a lesson from the Cold War, which was mutually assured destruction. The problem is we do some sort of tariff and then we do a tariff back. There needs to be some sort of automated response of like, if you do this, we will respond. If you subsidize this industry, we will automatically subsidize the equivalent industry. Just automatic.

The thing is, we have a lesson from the Cold War, which was mutually assured destruction. The problem is we do some sort of tariff and then we do a tariff back. There needs to be some sort of automated response of like, if you do this, we will respond. If you subsidize this industry, we will automatically subsidize the equivalent industry. Just automatic.

So don't do it because there's no benefit to you. Does the fact that it's open source, how does that change everything? It's the only reason people are using it. If it wasn't open source, it wouldn't have gotten the excitement. And open always wins. Always. Keep in mind, Linux won back when people didn't trust open source. They thought it was less secure. They thought the features were worse.

So don't do it because there's no benefit to you. Does the fact that it's open source, how does that change everything? It's the only reason people are using it. If it wasn't open source, it wouldn't have gotten the excitement. And open always wins. Always. Keep in mind, Linux won back when people didn't trust open source. They thought it was less secure. They thought the features were worse.

So don't do it because there's no benefit to you. Does the fact that it's open source, how does that change everything? It's the only reason people are using it. If it wasn't open source, it wouldn't have gotten the excitement. And open always wins. Always. Keep in mind, Linux won back when people didn't trust open source. They thought it was less secure. They thought the features were worse.

It was more buggy. And it still won. Now people expect open to be more secure, less buggy, and have more features. So how is proprietary ever going to win?

It was more buggy. And it still won. Now people expect open to be more secure, less buggy, and have more features. So how is proprietary ever going to win?

It was more buggy. And it still won. Now people expect open to be more secure, less buggy, and have more features. So how is proprietary ever going to win?

Agree. Especially for the pricing, because they're losing their pricing power on this. I can't speak for Sam Altman or OpenAI or anything like that. But if I was in that position, I would be gearing up to open source my models in response, because it's pretty clear you're going to lose that. So you might as well try and win all the users and the love from open sourcing.