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Jonathan Rottenberg

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298 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

But it was a gradual process.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

The prevailing model that we have of depression is that depression reflects some fundamental defect that is inside the depressed person.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

That defect might be in the person's mind, like the way that the person thinks.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

Or that defect might be in the person's brain, like in the chemicals that are circulating.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

between the neurons, or that defect might be in how the person is interacting with other people.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

But in the final analysis, the reason that people are depressed is that they have some fundamental defect or defects inside themselves that explain why they are subject to episode or repeated episodes of depression.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

People have been studying the biological contributions to depression for 50, 60, 70 years.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

And I do believe that part of depression involves biological factors, but that's very different from saying that there is a biological cause, a single cause in the brain.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

And

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

The search for antidepressants has led to a large number of therapies.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

There's over 20 different antidepressants, but none of them could be called a cure.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

And I do think it's a bit misleading, this metaphor that's often used to talk about a chemical imbalance.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

Because that imbalance has never been isolated.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

It's never been fully characterized.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

It can't be measured.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

And so what you have are treatments which are useful for many people, but it relies on a metaphor.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

The patient comes in and wants help.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

The physician or psychiatrist might tell them that they have a chemical imbalance, but the problem is you can't present to them their number, and you can't show that the treatment is changing that number.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

So you're really engaging in hand-waving.

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Hidden Brain
Rethinking Depression

And I don't think that's doing a full service to our level of knowledge and being fully candid with people who are really struggling.

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