Jonathan Sacerdoti

And I do take a lot of that from my Jewish upbringing.

You know, I come from a fairly traditional Jewish family.

We're not extremely religious, but we're not non-observant.

My grandfather was a rabbi, but my parents didn't bring me up as orthodox as that.

But I did go to synagogue very often as a child.

I still go to synagogue.

I live a...

pretty normal British life, I think, in many ways, but it's a Jewish-British life.

And I think the two are really compatible.

I think for many, many generations...

since we were readmitted to this country by Oliver Cromwell, Jews have played a big part in British life and I think the Jews have been good to Britain and Britain has been good to the Jews and that's why this moment is such a difficult one for us because it doesn't feel like that anymore.

Well, here's my concern.

Well, what's interesting about the way you've put that, I completely hear what you say and agree with it.

And that hand forced is the bit that I want to pick up on because I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Well, I think there are some people in this country who very much want to say Jews decide, Britain or Jewish, which one?

And I don't think that's the point.

I think that being Britain first, wanting to stand up for British values and Britishness isn't...

a question of not having other people or outsiders within Britain.

It is actually, in my opinion, for me as a Brit, you know, I was born here.

I do come from immigrant backgrounds on both sides at varying levels.