Jonathan Schanzer

That was easy.

You know, clean hands, nothing to worry about.

That's just not realistic, right?

I think we're going to go through a couple of different phases of this war.

We went through that hot and kinetic phase.

That was the first month or so of this thing.

We're now into an economic war.

I think we ought to be doing a lot of messaging right now, which we're not doing.

We should be pumping messaging into that regime right now.

Psychological warfare.

manipulation, misinformation, disinformation, shaping that battlefield.

I feel like they're doing a better job of it than we are.

Part of it, if you ask me, stems from the fact that we are phobic here in Washington about saying the words regime change.

Now, you know, I know why we're concerned about it, right?

Iraq, Afghanistan, we had debacles, you know, earlier on in this century.

But that doesn't mean that we still can't call for it.

Continue to delegitimize this regime, encourage people to come out in the streets and take shots at the IRGC and the besiege.

There's a lot more that I think we can do there.

The economic more can still ramp up.

We have kinetic means available to us if and when we want to use it.