Jonathan Schanzer

But this thing needs to be hybrid.

And I just think that, you know, I guess the bottom line is this thing is not going to be linear.

No one should expect it to be that way.

For anybody that's studied war over time and you look back at history, sometimes you just got to try it from a bunch of different angles until you find that one big weakness or multiple weaknesses that will ultimately defeat your enemy.

We haven't quite found it yet, but the enemy is weaker, right?

I mean, it has lost an enormous amount of money.

It's lost an enormous amount of military capability.

That's a good thing.

Let's build on that, and let's bring this to conclusion.

Yeah, I will be.

And, you know, it's already been delayed because of this war.

And I think Donald Trump had hoped to bring sort of a fait accompli to that meeting and to show Xi Jinping, look, we just, you know, we exerted our will, you know, the might of the U.S.

military is on full display and we just conquered your ally.

And now we got to make some deals about other parts of the world.

I think that.

I mean, the one thing that I would just say in response to the way you framed it, it's all true, except for this thing is the Chinese have always flaunted our sanctions.

They've always put a finger in our eye and we've kind of allowed it.

We've always understood it.

That doesn't mean, though, that they're going to get away with it.

We will sanction Chinese entities that continue to violate our sanctions.