Jonathan Stark
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One of the things that's unusual about giving a price for a project, instead of saying, I think it'll be about this much, but I'll bill you every week as we go, and ultimately we'll find out how much it really cost. The difference with giving them a price upfront is they can pay you upfront. So you don't have to wait. You don't have to wait for that last invoice to get paid.
One of the things that's unusual about giving a price for a project, instead of saying, I think it'll be about this much, but I'll bill you every week as we go, and ultimately we'll find out how much it really cost. The difference with giving them a price upfront is they can pay you upfront. So you don't have to wait. You don't have to wait for that last invoice to get paid.
You don't have to any of that. They just send you a check and you get started. Two instances, one instance, someone sent me a check. The CEO hired me that I don't know if that was the title, but it was basically like the second in command and five figure check. And we get into the kickoff meeting and the CEO rolls into the room and it was immediately apparent that it was not going to work.
You don't have to any of that. They just send you a check and you get started. Two instances, one instance, someone sent me a check. The CEO hired me that I don't know if that was the title, but it was basically like the second in command and five figure check. And we get into the kickoff meeting and the CEO rolls into the room and it was immediately apparent that it was not going to work.
You don't have to any of that. They just send you a check and you get started. Two instances, one instance, someone sent me a check. The CEO hired me that I don't know if that was the title, but it was basically like the second in command and five figure check. And we get into the kickoff meeting and the CEO rolls into the room and it was immediately apparent that it was not going to work.
Like I was not going to be able to work with this person. I had to send the money back. So that was a little bit weird. It worked out fine, but it's one of those things that people are like, what happens if you get on the project and it's awful?
Like I was not going to be able to work with this person. I had to send the money back. So that was a little bit weird. It worked out fine, but it's one of those things that people are like, what happens if you get on the project and it's awful?
Like I was not going to be able to work with this person. I had to send the money back. So that was a little bit weird. It worked out fine, but it's one of those things that people are like, what happens if you get on the project and it's awful?
Another time I had taken this 100% upfront payment and I agreed to do a project with a technology that I was not familiar with, but I knew I wanted to learn it. I felt it was important for me to know this technology. Someone needed this technology in their application and they were willing to pay me to do it, knowing that I wasn't an expert, but I needed to figure it out.
Another time I had taken this 100% upfront payment and I agreed to do a project with a technology that I was not familiar with, but I knew I wanted to learn it. I felt it was important for me to know this technology. Someone needed this technology in their application and they were willing to pay me to do it, knowing that I wasn't an expert, but I needed to figure it out.
Another time I had taken this 100% upfront payment and I agreed to do a project with a technology that I was not familiar with, but I knew I wanted to learn it. I felt it was important for me to know this technology. Someone needed this technology in their application and they were willing to pay me to do it, knowing that I wasn't an expert, but I needed to figure it out.
After months, it just turned out that it was the wrong choice of technology for the project. And so I had worked for months and had to give the money back. So that was my own fault, but that's the kind of thing that can happen. As long as it's very rare, it's no big deal.
After months, it just turned out that it was the wrong choice of technology for the project. And so I had worked for months and had to give the money back. So that was my own fault, but that's the kind of thing that can happen. As long as it's very rare, it's no big deal.
After months, it just turned out that it was the wrong choice of technology for the project. And so I had worked for months and had to give the money back. So that was my own fault, but that's the kind of thing that can happen. As long as it's very rare, it's no big deal.
The one that seems the most dramatic would be one where I thought a project was going to take me about a year, but it ended up taking me about two years.
The one that seems the most dramatic would be one where I thought a project was going to take me about a year, but it ended up taking me about two years.
The one that seems the most dramatic would be one where I thought a project was going to take me about a year, but it ended up taking me about two years.
When you have the experience of working on a fixed price project, if you've never worked on a fixed price project and you've only worked on hourly, when a project goes long, longer than the client expected or certainly past your hours estimate, the client starts to become a monster.
When you have the experience of working on a fixed price project, if you've never worked on a fixed price project and you've only worked on hourly, when a project goes long, longer than the client expected or certainly past your hours estimate, the client starts to become a monster.
When you have the experience of working on a fixed price project, if you've never worked on a fixed price project and you've only worked on hourly, when a project goes long, longer than the client expected or certainly past your hours estimate, the client starts to become a monster.