Jonathan Swanson

And I deleted everything from it except the bare essentials.

I can Uber.

I can...

make phone calls but i don't have email i don't have all my messaging apps i don't have all the bad things and i actually have gone so far that i've banned all news sites checking the price of crypto all sorts of other stuff um and my wife has the code so i literally can't unlock it so this freedom phone i call is what i take out of the house with me and it's got the stuff i need

and everything else is totally locked down.

And that's the only thing I've done that's worked because it's literally impossible for me to use it for anything distracting.

And I don't, for me personally, I don't know about you, but I don't mind if I'm on the phone a lot.

If I'm like making a phone call to a friend, that's cool.

What I don't like is just like passively picking up the phone to check notifications.

That's just a waste of brain power and shouldn't be doing.

And this freedom phone that's totally locked down has solved that for me.

I have a friend who had a real phone addiction and he had killed phone entirely and just carried a laptop with him.

So when he wanted to call someone or do something, he'd have to open the laptop.

And it was a real pain in the ass.

And it worked.

But yeah, that's kind of, that's real like AA.

That's desperate times.

Correct.

I mean, the other thing is you don't,

You don't have to have two phones, right?