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Jonathan V. Last

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2407 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Who the fuck cares, right? They certainly don't want normal immigration. That's bad. They don't want people coming in for asylum. They want immigration that helps make them money. And they now have a president who seems to now want to give that to him. People forget Trump was against H-1B visas.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Who the fuck cares, right? They certainly don't want normal immigration. That's bad. They don't want people coming in for asylum. They want immigration that helps make them money. And they now have a president who seems to now want to give that to him. People forget Trump was against H-1B visas.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

He said they were bad the first time he issued an executive order in June 2020, sort of putting a halt on them. And then he came out like, you know, a week ago and said, oh, I've always thought they were great. It is unclear if he actually understood what anybody was talking about. It seems like he was talking about H2B, not H1B.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

He said they were bad the first time he issued an executive order in June 2020, sort of putting a halt on them. And then he came out like, you know, a week ago and said, oh, I've always thought they were great. It is unclear if he actually understood what anybody was talking about. It seems like he was talking about H2B, not H1B.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

He said they were bad the first time he issued an executive order in June 2020, sort of putting a halt on them. And then he came out like, you know, a week ago and said, oh, I've always thought they were great. It is unclear if he actually understood what anybody was talking about. It seems like he was talking about H2B, not H1B.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Right, because those are the ones he used. I think Elon gets what he wants. They get to have H1B. And the MAGA base, like Laura Loomer and Steve Bannon will get upset, but they aren't the base. Those are the elites. They are MAGA elites. The base are the actual voters. And I don't think the voters are going to give two shits about this because it is only like 85,000 people.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Right, because those are the ones he used. I think Elon gets what he wants. They get to have H1B. And the MAGA base, like Laura Loomer and Steve Bannon will get upset, but they aren't the base. Those are the elites. They are MAGA elites. The base are the actual voters. And I don't think the voters are going to give two shits about this because it is only like 85,000 people.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Right, because those are the ones he used. I think Elon gets what he wants. They get to have H1B. And the MAGA base, like Laura Loomer and Steve Bannon will get upset, but they aren't the base. Those are the elites. They are MAGA elites. The base are the actual voters. And I don't think the voters are going to give two shits about this because it is only like 85,000 people.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so long as Trump is doing something else to make them happy and to excite them, they're not going to hold a grudge over this. And so they're all going to get away with it. Sarah?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so long as Trump is doing something else to make them happy and to excite them, they're not going to hold a grudge over this. And so they're all going to get away with it. Sarah?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so long as Trump is doing something else to make them happy and to excite them, they're not going to hold a grudge over this. And so they're all going to get away with it. Sarah?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah, I totally agree with that. But I could also flip the telescope around. I mean, Trump has the power. Trump is the one who gets to person or unperson people. I think that's still true. He couldn't entirely unperson Elon, but he could unperson him. And the other thing is, at this point, he could take a lot of people out of Twitter. Twitter's already hemorrhaged users.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah, I totally agree with that. But I could also flip the telescope around. I mean, Trump has the power. Trump is the one who gets to person or unperson people. I think that's still true. He couldn't entirely unperson Elon, but he could unperson him. And the other thing is, at this point, he could take a lot of people out of Twitter. Twitter's already hemorrhaged users.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah, I totally agree with that. But I could also flip the telescope around. I mean, Trump has the power. Trump is the one who gets to person or unperson people. I think that's still true. He couldn't entirely unperson Elon, but he could unperson him. And the other thing is, at this point, he could take a lot of people out of Twitter. Twitter's already hemorrhaged users.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

I think if Donald was unhappy with Musk, he could tell a lot of people, now that he's got his nose under the tent on Twitter, he could say, yeah, this platform is woke now. You gotta come over to me with truth. And if the MAGA social media actually fractured, because right now it isn't really fractured, they're all on Twitter,

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

I think if Donald was unhappy with Musk, he could tell a lot of people, now that he's got his nose under the tent on Twitter, he could say, yeah, this platform is woke now. You gotta come over to me with truth. And if the MAGA social media actually fractured, because right now it isn't really fractured, they're all on Twitter,

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

I think if Donald was unhappy with Musk, he could tell a lot of people, now that he's got his nose under the tent on Twitter, he could say, yeah, this platform is woke now. You gotta come over to me with truth. And if the MAGA social media actually fractured, because right now it isn't really fractured, they're all on Twitter,

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And they're like, you know, five people on Truth Social and five people on Parler maybe or whatever. Getter. Getter, right. I think that could hurt Musk because the only thing Twitter has going for it right now is mass. And if the mass on it is significantly eaten into at a stroke, then the network effects on it completely unravel. And Musk is now running this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And they're like, you know, five people on Truth Social and five people on Parler maybe or whatever. Getter. Getter, right. I think that could hurt Musk because the only thing Twitter has going for it right now is mass. And if the mass on it is significantly eaten into at a stroke, then the network effects on it completely unravel. And Musk is now running this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And they're like, you know, five people on Truth Social and five people on Parler maybe or whatever. Getter. Getter, right. I think that could hurt Musk because the only thing Twitter has going for it right now is mass. And if the mass on it is significantly eaten into at a stroke, then the network effects on it completely unravel. And Musk is now running this.