Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

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Tim Miller 0:38
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It is New Year's Eve, so I'm here with my besties. It's Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark and JVL, editor of The Bulwark, author of the Triad newsletter. It's an underrated newsletter. I'm not sure if you've heard of it. Sarah reads it from time to time. How are you doing, guys? How's your holiday been? I've missed you guys.
Sarah Longwell 0:57
Yeah, I did not realize how much I miss you guys when news happens and I can't talk about it with you. I can try talking to the people around me, but they reach a threshold.
Tim Miller 1:07
Have you not been talking to the people at the lesbian cottage that you're in?
Sarah Longwell 1:10
No, I have.
Tim Miller 1:11
In the woods?
Jonathan V. Last 1:12
Did you sit down with your children and say, boys, boys, we need to talk about H-1B visas? Yeah.
Sarah Longwell 1:21
I was like, because I haven't even broached Elon Musk. Like, I've already done, you know, they know about the Trump stuff. But now, I mean, the number of villains in this story, I need them to have, you know, hope and optimism. Anyway, I'm glad to see you guys. I've got a lot of things that I would like to talk about and catch up on.
Tim Miller 1:38
I had the same thing, Sarah. We have our kids at the same age. Like the fact that they're going to remember this next administration was like actually the saddest thing for me on election night. JVL has already dealt with us. He has grown children. So, you know, they've already had their night, their childish naivete dashed, you know, by the world. But it's tough. Okay, much to discuss. The only actual news we have since yesterday's pod is Trump has endorsed Mike Johnson for Speaker, presumably averting the first hurdle there of the pre-presidency. He wrote in a bleat, the American people need immediate relief from all the destructive policies of the last administration. Speaker Mike Johnson is a good, hardworking, religious man. Interesting.
Tim Miller 2:22
He'll do the right thing and we'll continue to win. Mike has my complete and total endorsement. All caps MAGA. So there was some pushback on this. Steve Bannon and the folks at America Fest where I was at last week were booing. booing Johnson. Breitbart was trying to defenestrate him. There were some other people inside the caucus, like maybe 12, that said they wanted to get rid of him. But Trump is trying to stop the nonsense early. Sarah, I want to start with you because I think you're the hardest hit by this result. If people on our YouTube feed, we had an amazing video where everybody gave their 2025 predictions. We have some really smart colleagues. Some of the predictions really tickled me.
Tim Miller 3:00
But your prediction, Sarah, was that there would be three Republican speakers in 2025. which is still in play, but I think was hurt a little bit by Mike Johnson surviving here through the first week of January.
Sarah Longwell 3:12
Oh, Tim, my sweet summer child, come on. You think that Trump endorsing Mike Johnson just now is going to solve Mike Johnson's problem? Because let me tell you what... They may have they have to have a speaker vote. Then they've got to vote on this bill to pass funding the government. And that is a speaker eater. That's where people go down. Can I just say my favorite thing about the speaker just like fights in general is that Trump put out another bleat in which he blamed Kevin McCarthy and said he did the dumbest move in history, passing the last election. funding bill but he's a good man he's a friend but it's the dumbest move ever made and it's did that especially tickle you for any reason it did trump is the worst in all cases but there is something about people who have sold their souls to him and in return he kicks them in the face and whenever that happens i'm going to look we've got to take our little pleasing. Yeah, where we can get them.

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