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Jonathan V. Last

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The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Because it's not clear to me that this is going to be anything more than the wall, right? I mean, the wall, which we built 437 miles of or something.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Because it's not clear to me that this is going to be anything more than the wall, right? I mean, the wall, which we built 437 miles of or something.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

I think it's primarily bait. I think it's primarily bait. And I'm not saying don't cover it. Again, I'm not saying don't cover it. My personal thing is that in the product that I work hardest on, I'm going to try not to give oxygen to that stuff, which is different than saying nobody should cover it. That's not what I'm saying. With these things, they're, you know, they can originate as bait.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

I think it's primarily bait. I think it's primarily bait. And I'm not saying don't cover it. Again, I'm not saying don't cover it. My personal thing is that in the product that I work hardest on, I'm going to try not to give oxygen to that stuff, which is different than saying nobody should cover it. That's not what I'm saying. With these things, they're, you know, they can originate as bait.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

I think it's primarily bait. I think it's primarily bait. And I'm not saying don't cover it. Again, I'm not saying don't cover it. My personal thing is that in the product that I work hardest on, I'm going to try not to give oxygen to that stuff, which is different than saying nobody should cover it. That's not what I'm saying. With these things, they're, you know, they can originate as bait.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And then, you know, like throwing a pebble into a pond, there can be ripples that actually have real effects. The Panama Canal and Greenland, maybe they could have real effects. You know, Heather Cox Richardson, one of my writing crushes, talks about how she thinks the Greenland thing is actually part of an attempt to break NATO. And if true, then that would be a very big deal.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And then, you know, like throwing a pebble into a pond, there can be ripples that actually have real effects. The Panama Canal and Greenland, maybe they could have real effects. You know, Heather Cox Richardson, one of my writing crushes, talks about how she thinks the Greenland thing is actually part of an attempt to break NATO. And if true, then that would be a very big deal.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And then, you know, like throwing a pebble into a pond, there can be ripples that actually have real effects. The Panama Canal and Greenland, maybe they could have real effects. You know, Heather Cox Richardson, one of my writing crushes, talks about how she thinks the Greenland thing is actually part of an attempt to break NATO. And if true, then that would be a very big deal.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

But I want to see it. If he's serious about Greenland, then he should either go put troops in Greenland without the Danes agreeing to it or being informed about it. Don't sit there and, you know, like whisper to me about how tough you're going to be. Go ahead. Go. Greenland's right there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

But I want to see it. If he's serious about Greenland, then he should either go put troops in Greenland without the Danes agreeing to it or being informed about it. Don't sit there and, you know, like whisper to me about how tough you're going to be. Go ahead. Go. Greenland's right there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

But I want to see it. If he's serious about Greenland, then he should either go put troops in Greenland without the Danes agreeing to it or being informed about it. Don't sit there and, you know, like whisper to me about how tough you're going to be. Go ahead. Go. Greenland's right there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Go send a frigate over there and put a battalion in with drones and all the things that you say you think we need. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Because that's all you're doing is yapping, Mr. President. That's basically my view. But the difference is Ukraine, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Go send a frigate over there and put a battalion in with drones and all the things that you say you think we need. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Because that's all you're doing is yapping, Mr. President. That's basically my view. But the difference is Ukraine, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Go send a frigate over there and put a battalion in with drones and all the things that you say you think we need. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Because that's all you're doing is yapping, Mr. President. That's basically my view. But the difference is Ukraine, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

So he has reiterated that the Ukraine war will be over 20 days from now because he's going to have Ukraine all sorted out within 24 hours. That is also bait, I think. But that has serious, for real, real-world consequences, whether he does it or not. And so that, I think, is worth taking more seriously. So I guess I'm trying to make some distinctions here. You look not sold all the way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

So he has reiterated that the Ukraine war will be over 20 days from now because he's going to have Ukraine all sorted out within 24 hours. That is also bait, I think. But that has serious, for real, real-world consequences, whether he does it or not. And so that, I think, is worth taking more seriously. So I guess I'm trying to make some distinctions here. You look not sold all the way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

So he has reiterated that the Ukraine war will be over 20 days from now because he's going to have Ukraine all sorted out within 24 hours. That is also bait, I think. But that has serious, for real, real-world consequences, whether he does it or not. And so that, I think, is worth taking more seriously. So I guess I'm trying to make some distinctions here. You look not sold all the way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah. I would say part of my thing, though, is that I would like to be in the position of goading these fuckers into doing the terrible things they pretend they are going to do. Because what I don't want... And yet what I fear we're going to get is a world in which they only do the terrible things that are going to make it easier to perpetuate power.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah. I would say part of my thing, though, is that I would like to be in the position of goading these fuckers into doing the terrible things they pretend they are going to do. Because what I don't want... And yet what I fear we're going to get is a world in which they only do the terrible things that are going to make it easier to perpetuate power.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah. I would say part of my thing, though, is that I would like to be in the position of goading these fuckers into doing the terrible things they pretend they are going to do. Because what I don't want... And yet what I fear we're going to get is a world in which they only do the terrible things that are going to make it easier to perpetuate power.