Jonny Holland

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862 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 21 Jul

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RTÉ Rugby Podcast · How do Ireland close the gap after a season of ups and downs? · 21 Jul 2026 podcast

I'm literally looking at the framework that they've given us on head contacts.

And then if you can objectively go through that framework, it's a red card because that's where laws become subjective, don't they?

And you can talk about the mitigation, but...

like when you look at he was also off his feet but let's not referee the office feet one yet because i don't think that has to come into it because there's so much in the rest of it he has come in with a tucked arm and hit someone in the head which is a high degree of danger so if you whittle that down high degree of danger it's a red card can you mitigate yes or no no because it was always illegal his arm was never out to get him in a in a normal kind of tackling or a rocking way

which is why it's a red card.

So like, you can add off his feet or you can add slightly around the side.

I don't care about that because he just has not been legal entering the ruck.

He's hit his head.

It's dangerous.

It's a red card, isn't it?

you have like I would think that around the poach that once you're doing something illegal to get them off there you know you've lost the contest the James Ryan one is the part that like you can say he doesn't deserve to lose the ball he can't approach but Josh van der Vleer is still quite quick to get in there and he has lost the race that's the part you're saying like he's lost the race to get in you can't just do what you want now I've been very vocal on the fact that

rugby doesn't want to ref its laws anyway you're not even allowed into a post position that's what i don't like let's say it again for the last podcast of the year like i just don't understand sometimes what rugby is looking at and allowing because we've just allowed it you know like can we not recalibrate and get back to a point of of legal context that's less dangerous but that's probably a bigger point uh you don't have the rights the same as if someone carries the ball though

you can't just whack him in the head.

Like, you know, yeah, you can dip at the hips and you can get mitigation, but it's still mitigation on something that's very illegal because you can't just do what you want because they've changed the kind of factors allowing you to get in there.

It just doesn't work like that, you know?

And I have to say, because I...

I've been really impressed by Luke Jacobson, maybe someone I haven't watched very closely before now, so forgive me that I'm late to the party, but I think some of his physicality, his edge play, his loose play as a back row forward has been unbelievable.

His ruck, obviously, with Stuart McCluskey, I think he was very involved in that turnover.

McCluskey was very out of control in that contact in another entry for Ireland, as you said.

But this one...

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