Jonquilyn Hill

So it's really only been people who buy their own coverage in the individual market and small businesses who haven't been getting a subsidy.

And that's what this is.

If insurance just keeps getting more and more expensive, do you think we'll see more people just kind of opt out of it altogether?

Well, that's a concern.

Of course, that's where we were before the Affordable Care Act passed, when we had 14 percent of the population that didn't have insurance.

Now it's down to an all-time low of about 8 percent.

But we're definitely going to see people lose their insurance, even if they're not dropping it voluntarily.

The bill that Republicans passed this summer takes away eligibility for a lot of people

And out-of-pocket costs, as you say, are going up dramatically, even if you do have insurance, deductibles and co-payments.

And just the cost of medical care in general means that even people with pretty good insurance end up owing lots of money out of pocket.

So I think we're sort of coming to another transition point where this is going to be back on the national agenda.

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