Joost de Valk

And even some affiliates that have 100 sites and use our plugin on all of them.

but it's only one person.

So it's probably about 2x what we have in sites, but that's still a guesstimation.

No, we've bootstrapped.

We're now at, last year we did about 10 million euros, so about $12 million in revenue.

There's about 100 people here.

So yeah, we're doing well.

No, it's just somewhere around there.

Yeah.

So yeah, we, our total revenue was about 10 million euros.

So that's real money as we call it.

Oh, it's not dollars.

At the moment, it seems to be, which is not necessarily good for us, by the way, because a lot of it is.

So we have a couple of currencies that people pay us in.

Yeah.

And a strong dollar is usually better for our bottom line than a strong euro.

And help me understand how effective you've been with this team.

We've grown about 60% year on year for the last five years.

Most of that growth is new users.

And we're slowly getting better at expanding it, but most of it's growth on new users.