Jordan Crowder

And people will be like, oh, it's not fun.

It's torturous.

Or maybe their life isn't going good or whatever.

But it's like, hey, like, we literally simulate, like, we'll play, like, Call of Duty.

And we'll put ourselves in a first-person thing of, like, World War I. This, like, torturous event.

And we'll, like, have fun doing it.

It's like, why would you do that?

It's like, well, because...

Maybe your life is good and you want to experience something that's not or whatever.

So when you're in the non-physical state, this whole experience is fun.

It's amazing.

It's addicting.

It's thrilling.

The emotions, the highs, the lows, the overcoming adversity, the heartbreak, the losing stuff, the gaining it back.

That's why you'll see people, they'll build up a life, destroy it, build it back up.

At a point, it's the experience.

You just want the experience.

So my answer to that is like, you know, how do you go back to living in the matrix when you've seen the other side?

And it's like, well, it's fun.

Like, but you have to understand it for what it is.