Jordan Goudreau

I read about his strategist speaking with Mike Pompeo and Elliott Abrams and just having them – people like –

Figueroa, who was the head of the Sabine, who's a torturer, and they just pulled him off the sanctions list.

And then Forbes wrote an article about him saying he's the picture of what a Venezuelan should be.

Meanwhile, he came from torturing I don't know how many thousands of Venezuelans.

So this whole story is...

It is a CIA narrative-driven mass police.

Well, here's the deal.

I don't know.

I can't speak to that, but he was a sitting president.

He was new, right?

And so when you're a new president,

you don't you're not really going to understand that the the uh i guess that the tools in your toolbox and so one of those tools if you if you come to the president and look the president's a smart guy your business guy president's a smart guy if i come to you with the choice that look we can lose a lot of american lives and we can make this really bloody or i say to the president you know what let's make it bloodless we'll uh

We'll get some guys who know how to do this, and we'll try to get the CIA to do it.

They won't do it, so let's get somebody in who's private, and then let's go with that option.

I'll take the other option where it's bloodless.

In terms of?

This is how close I had his breakfast.

I knew who his driver was going to be that day.

I knew names of his personal Cuban strike for bodyguards.

How close was I?