Jordan Harbinger

And it turns out in her research, she's like, Jordan, you're not going to believe this.

It turns out the people who are tricking young girls into a basement with a chocolate bar are aunties and grandmas.

The men, when we surveyed them, she read research, when they're surveyed, the men are like, I don't care.

I think it's kind of gross they're doing that and they're mutilating her and uncut versus cut.

I don't care.

I don't even believe any of these wives tales.

She's going to cheat on me if she has a clitoris.

None of that makes any sense to me.

But grandma really wants to do it.

And we're just all going to turn a blind eye while she commits this atrocity in a basement somewhere.

And it's crazy because it's the opposite of what you think.

You think it's like, oh, these old men are so gross.

They're just doing this for the patriarchy.

The guys don't care.

There's a story, you probably know this.

There was a community, I think, somewhere in sub-Saharan Africa where this was commonplace.

And the pastor, who was a man, suddenly decided, this is really gross and not hygienic, and there's no reason for us to be doing this.

And so he went up in church where everybody goes to church.

It's one of those kind of places.

And he goes...