Jordan Harbinger

Grab him by the Pricewaterhouse.

Yeah, I don't know, man.

I don't know.

Just like I'm just trying to understand, was this guy saying Jill is so hot hurting women or hurting her?

My feeling is if this is locker room talk, this is extremely innocuous locker room talk.

I don't think it screams patriarchy to be like, man, sometimes Jill makes me nervous in meetings.

I don't know.

Exactly.

Yeah, I agree with that.

And I mean, women talk about guys like this, too.

So like, I'm not even sure this is patriarchy.

Of course they do.

And they're allowed to, maybe with different implications in the workplace, which again, this is where it gets tricky and I get that.

But I'm glad you're digging into this because our friend is asking if we, we paragons of healthy masculinity, apparently, if we've ever stayed quiet when inappropriate comments were made, depending on how you define that, you already f***ed up in that car ride, Gabe.

I don't know.

Exactly.

Was I supposed to turn to this guy and be like, well, guy in my class I just met and whom I also would like to have a decent relationship with?

that's not really appropriate talk when it's just us alone in the car.

And you should really be thinking about, like, that's also weird and presumptuous, but that's what I'm getting at.

I'm just trying to understand.