Jordan Harbinger

And the Getty was gonna burn and then they said, no, we have this crazy fireproof.

I mean, it was like, why are we thinking about how to fireproof art and buildings in extreme ways?

I mean, yes, the stuff in there is priceless, so it's a good idea, but also like, man, maybe we should manage the problem itself

I know your career started with climate change fears, but I think a lot of Gen Z, they have climate anxiety.

Would you say you had that or is that overstated?

Yeah, it's true, and it's different also when you see it.

Like, if you live in LA and you saw those fires, if you watched a lot of videos about the Australia fires, also, when I went to Peru, I remember driving, and we were in a really rural area, I was in the middle of the jungle, and then we finally got to some small town, and then we took a bus to a larger town that had a small bush airport,

But when we were driving, we would see, it would be like jungle, jungle, jungle.

And then there'd just be an open space and there'd be some cows in it.

And then next to that open space would be more jungle and then a little house.

And then we saw fires, like tons of fires.

And we're like, why aren't the people panicking?

This is a huge fire.

And then we realized they were just burning the jungle down to get the land.

And then they were going to

put their cows on there or farm on there or something like that.

And the fire was right up to the road.

I mean, it was really intense and huge.

And I'm thinking like, there's no way these don't get out of control here and there.

So you have Hollywood highways, you got the bushfires in Peru.