Jordan Harbinger

I wonder if there's anything evolved in sort of humans wanting to see how someone dies.

Like, do I want to see this?

Oh, did they die of a disease?

Did they die?

Okay, they got their head cut off.

That was by that guy.

He did something bad.

Okay, we're good.

Why did this person just suddenly die and have boils all over their face?

I need to know more about this because I don't want that happening to me.

That's a good point.

I'd love to talk about dreams because dreams, look, obviously we often simulate conflict with threats that some of which we would encounter in the real world, plenty of which we would not.

I definitely run from supernatural beings occasionally in my dreams that I...

It doesn't make sense, but I don't know.

Or they're people and I'm just having a bad time.

But I thought it was interesting.

In the book, you write about a study done on men who live in the jungle in South America, so somewhere in the Amazon.

And their dreams were about spiders and snakes and things like that.

Not, though, about jaguars or anything like that, though, I guess.

They're probably a lot more likely to get bitten by a snake or a spider than a big cat.