Jordan Harbinger

I don't know.

So dreams are kind of a threat learning system.

Well, some dreams, I suppose, are a threat learning system.

I wonder if horror movies help us with that.

Because, you know, after I watched The Black Phone, I was like, huh, how am I getting out of the basement?

Those are my dreams for the next few days.

Yeah, you can't tell what's real and what's not.

And our body often can't tell what's real and what's not.

I mean, you've mentioned in the book, we've all seen a dog or a cat dream if we've had a pet and they're running and they're going, and then even octopuses dream and they shoot ink in their sleep.

So they're wasting those resources and energy for no reason.

It's just that we can't tell the difference most of the time.

That is fascinating.

Dr. David Eagleman, who's been on the show, he's a neuroscientist, he said that one of the functions that dreams have, I guess we think, is that...

When your brain is not using something, the neurons can get repurposed for something else or another area of the brain can take over.

So you need your visual and auditory cortex while you're asleep because if you don't use it, then I don't know, whatever, some other part of your brain's like, oh, you're not using these for eight hours, 10 hours?

I'm gonna start using these.

So it's like, no, no, no, we're dreaming.

So I am seeing things even though my eyes are closed.

I am hearing and feeling things even though my eyes are closed.

I'm asleep.