Jordan Harbinger

And so thinking about taking a new stance with them just feels very strange.

The guilt you're feeling, yeah, it's partly a very normal reaction to not stepping in and saving people you love.

But I suspect it's also a symptom of rewriting an old pattern, feeling like you're ditching someone who's looked to you to save her and prop her up for a very long time.

I get that vibe.

I mean, he said it seems like there's no fight left in her.

She just goes in her room and would go to bed hungry if they weren't feeding her.

I mean, that's not a happy person.

Yeah, that basic desire to live and to live well.

Well, that's why he's worried about abandoning her.

Right.

Anything less than saving her and doing what she wants, that feels like he's fundamentally failing her, which is interesting.

Agree, because I think his definition of support is it's a little bit miscalibrated.

Yeah, exactly.

And meanwhile, she's actually the one who's putting him in this position.

I agree with that.

And then she's making it his problem, basically outsourcing the most basic responsibilities to him.

I mean, think about it, Gabe.

We have a few things we kind of have to do as humans, right?

We've got to work so that we can provide for ourselves food and shelter.

And she's like, fine, I'll go and do the work thing and do the bare minimum, but I'm not going to handle the food and shelter part.