Jordan Harbinger

It's that important that you support those who support the show.

Now back to Andrea Dunlop.

This has got to be so confusing for kids of any age, especially older kids, because the person you trust the most is hurting you.

People are gaslighting you from all directions.

And the people trying to protect you from your mom are doctors and caseworkers.

And it's like they're now the enemy.

It's really the upside down for these kids.

Do your parents still have contact with your sister then?

Because obviously that would mean that, okay, no.

Because if you're separated from people that don't believe you, but you still talk to your mom, it's hard to be like in between, right?

It's hard to be like, oh yeah, one of our daughters totally knows and proved on the show that you're doing all this and did a whole thing about it.

And our other daughter is abusing our grandkids.

There's not like a gray area where you could be okay with both of those things.

It seems like there can't be a cure for this kind of thing, right?

I heard on your show, Munchausen by proxy, it's not a delusion.

If you're a mother and you have crazy delusions, like you think your baby is Satan and you're trying to poison her, they can get you medication and they can treat you and you're like, oh my God, I'm mentally ill.

I need to stay on these pills.

And when you stay on the pills, you're a safe parent again.

Like maybe CPS comes just to make sure like everything, but you're like, oh my God, I can't believe...

I was a totally different person because I was dealing with schizophrenia, whatever it is.