Jordan Harbinger

But in Munchausen by proxy, this is like a compulsive behavior.

It's a recovery model, right?

It's like anorexia.

There's not like a cure.

You can't take a pill and go, oh yeah, you know what?

When I take this, I don't feel the need to abuse my kids.

I don't know if you can call it this word.

I'm probably misusing it.

Recidivism with Munchausen by proxy.

So it's the rate of recidivism has to be astronomical, just given what you've said.

How common is this?

Because this is one of those things where it's, oh my God, it's so rare.

There's 10 documented cases per state.

And then it's like, or just nobody's investigating it and reporting it and writing Munchausen by proxy.

They're just writing like, seems a little sus in the chart, but it's not like going into a database anywhere.

What do you do?

You're in therapy and then suddenly you go, hey, whoever, add me to the stats for 1996 because that's what was going on.

Where do you sign up for that?

What do you do with that?

The problem is it seems like doctors, let's say I'm a doctor and I don't know much about this and I look at the stats and I go,