Jordan Jozak

As we get into consciousness research now, I often use the analogy that consciousness, you can perceive more as like a vehicle.

Imagine a car, four tires, right?

And a steering wheel.

And that's how you can kind of think it's consciousness.

It's like the vehicle that gets driven.

However, awareness is actually what's sitting in the driver's seat of the car, right?

So a lot of things can hold consciousness, right?

But awareness is actually that kind of like universal substrate of like the is.

And when you follow that perception better, you can kind of better understand, well, like, how could you get out of your body?

How could you shift into something?

Well, it's actually not necessarily consciousness.

It's like that's the holder and the vehicle and the container.

But there's awareness.

That's a step deep.

Yeah, all sorts of different all sorts of different exercises.

I would be given targets.

A lot of this was like testing.

Right.

So it's like there there were in terms of like the regimented aspect, like they did have these exercises kind of mapped out.

Right.