Jordan Jozak

Well, to back up, there was some context in that conversation.

I heard that you were introduced to something, right?

And I was actually brought into this relaxation exercise with Meg.

And she was like, do you know what its name is?

And as I'm in this relaxation exercise, I could take myself out of body and I almost make contact.

So it's like as if once I was physically...

linked with this, you know, like device, relic, whatever you want to call it.

It was like it developed like a tunnel or a pathway to where like I could communicate with it back.

And this began a longer process throughout the program to where they wanted to better understand this thing.

So that first example with Meg, I saw it once, different psychologist's office.

Now I'm back here in this whole programmatic environment where

I was actually asked, what do you think its name is?

And I could take myself into this astral environment, feel the same energy from it, and it would show up to me visually like this very silver fractalizing type energy.

And in one of the experiences, it was telling me that his name was Sylvia.

So later on,

It was brought back in and I was essentially like this in-between process to better understand what they couldn't understand about it.

Right.

So it didn't telepathically link with anyone else.

It wouldn't talk to anyone else.

They didn't know what this thing was, was basically my understanding.