Jordan Klepper

And recognizing the pattern where anger has been, in many ways, whitewashed or sanded down.

And you're asking people to connect with that anger right now.

But I think a lot of people also feel the burnout attached with anger.

Like, how does someone hold that anger, that righteous feeling that they have when they're pissed off at the system?

But when I go and talk to a lot of people who are watching the news,

There's no shortage of being mad at it.

But almost for self-survival, there's a desire to step back and give yourself that space.

How do you reconcile keeping that fire burning and also staying sane in this world?

You talk a little bit in this about your own writing process and how years ago, comedy was a tool many people used as a way to invite people in, and still do, but that you shifted to an angrier stance and immediately found that that was resonating more, or it got much more attention.

But when I look at the media landscape right now, or the platforms with which people engage in, anger is sort of the bar for engagement.

So how do you balance what seems to get clicks with actual effectiveness?

Feels like the conversation happens amongst a din of anger, and it just gets lost within that.

Oh, I hope people can't see through inauthenticity.

That's my greatest fear.

It really is.

Your audience for this is primarily a younger audience.

Did you consider boiling this down to a 90-second TikTok?

In talking to a younger audience, though, is there, you know, there's lots of conversations around a shorter attention span and the way in which to get their attention.

Have you found a response from younger audiences into digging into this history that they haven't heard yet?

Well, it's a great book.