Jordan Klepper

It's been great.

And one of the awards that we received, and I went up there to thank, I thanked him.

I was like, thank you, because without him, we would never had done this film, because this film comes from the director, Cláudio Mendonça Filho, and I sharing our perplexity over what was going on in Brazil from 2018 to 2022, when this man,

elected democratically, but he came to bring back the values of the dictatorship to Brazil in the 21st century.

So we were perplexed, and we were calling each other to go, like, how can we...

deal with that?

How can we react to that?

So this is how the film came about.

I mean, that is so fascinating.

Essentially, you're articulating a resurrection of a loss of values, or a resurrection of the values of dictatorship, and then having to articulate that through art.

What do you connect that to?

I think there's such a...

Such a desire here.

People feel like we're living under these, we see these fascistic police state images on the news.

And there's a lot of conversation around, like, how do we just get past this?

Philly, you're talking about getting past this, but not actually getting past this, seeing this resurgence there.

Like, what did you want to articulate in having lived through that?

I think that preservation of memory is a very important thing.

You know, back in 79, we had this law called the Amnesty Law that basically forgave all the torturers and killers and people that did despicable things to civilians.

And I think that there was a very...