Jordan Klepper

He's had many teachers and no male teachers.

I think, where do you see that role for men?

Like...

both in our society?

Like, what job should they be looking for?

And also, as mentorship, you speak of mentoring yourself, friends, kids.

Is that what you're saying?

Just on a social level, people should be reaching out to other kids who need that role model?

I'm hoping to delay that, hopefully, till he's out of the house.

I'm curious.

To shift into the political side of this, the Democrats have been criticized for losing young men.

Where do you see that loss, and how do you see them regaining that?

Goddamn, Scott.

I will tell you this.

I truly enjoyed this book as a father and as a man himself.

And thinking about my father, what I was moved by, at the end, you write a letter to your two sons, sort of summing up a lot of the lessons that are in this book.

It's not only thoughtful, it's remarkably patriotic.

You keep mentioning to your sons to value the country that they came up in, which is something I don't, I think people on the progressive side of things who are trying to crack this nut feel almost ashamed to show that patriotism.

They feel like that is land that has been ceded or at least gained by people on the other side of the aisle.

Like, why was that so important to you?