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Jordan Peterson

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

So we could talk about that for a bit. It's like, okay, corporations are evil and there isn't any higher purpose you can serve as a woman than to serve one. It's like, okay, I'm not exactly sure what to make of that. Then I want to tell you a weird little story too. I was looking at the Brothers Grimm book

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Snow White version recently because I went and saw the Disney Snow White version which you know was exactly the sort of mistake that you'd think it would be both to attend and to produce and so I want to just tell you a snippet of that story. So Snow White is young and beautiful and The Evil Queen wants that, right?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Snow White version recently because I went and saw the Disney Snow White version which you know was exactly the sort of mistake that you'd think it would be both to attend and to produce and so I want to just tell you a snippet of that story. So Snow White is young and beautiful and The Evil Queen wants that, right?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Snow White version recently because I went and saw the Disney Snow White version which you know was exactly the sort of mistake that you'd think it would be both to attend and to produce and so I want to just tell you a snippet of that story. So Snow White is young and beautiful and The Evil Queen wants that, right?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

So she's an older woman who is competing with the younger woman for the younger woman's advantages. That's the Evil Queen, okay? Now Snow White has to run away from the Evil Queen. Right. And where does she go? Well, she goes out into the forest, which is the unknown, but she goes to where the dwarfs are.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

So she's an older woman who is competing with the younger woman for the younger woman's advantages. That's the Evil Queen, okay? Now Snow White has to run away from the Evil Queen. Right. And where does she go? Well, she goes out into the forest, which is the unknown, but she goes to where the dwarfs are.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

So she's an older woman who is competing with the younger woman for the younger woman's advantages. That's the Evil Queen, okay? Now Snow White has to run away from the Evil Queen. Right. And where does she go? Well, she goes out into the forest, which is the unknown, but she goes to where the dwarfs are.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, in the Grimm's Brother fairy tale, the dwarfs don't have names, so they're kind of generic. But they keep an orderly house, and they work very hard. So the Grimm Brothers dwarfs, now we don't know how old these fairy tales are, by the way. There have been some folklorologists, folklorists, folklorists, who've traced some fairy tales back like 10,000 years. They're very old.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, in the Grimm's Brother fairy tale, the dwarfs don't have names, so they're kind of generic. But they keep an orderly house, and they work very hard. So the Grimm Brothers dwarfs, now we don't know how old these fairy tales are, by the way. There have been some folklorologists, folklorists, folklorists, who've traced some fairy tales back like 10,000 years. They're very old.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, in the Grimm's Brother fairy tale, the dwarfs don't have names, so they're kind of generic. But they keep an orderly house, and they work very hard. So the Grimm Brothers dwarfs, now we don't know how old these fairy tales are, by the way. There have been some folklorologists, folklorists, folklorists, who've traced some fairy tales back like 10,000 years. They're very old.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Okay, so it's wisdom speaking, you could say. So Snow White goes to... To what? To serve the dwarves. Okay, so what does that mean? It means that to escape the evil queen, she has to make a pact with ordinary masculinity, right? She has to serve the dwarves. Now, why? Because they protect her from the evil queen.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Okay, so it's wisdom speaking, you could say. So Snow White goes to... To what? To serve the dwarves. Okay, so what does that mean? It means that to escape the evil queen, she has to make a pact with ordinary masculinity, right? She has to serve the dwarves. Now, why? Because they protect her from the evil queen.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Okay, so it's wisdom speaking, you could say. So Snow White goes to... To what? To serve the dwarves. Okay, so what does that mean? It means that to escape the evil queen, she has to make a pact with ordinary masculinity, right? She has to serve the dwarves. Now, why? Because they protect her from the evil queen.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, among primates, there is a phenomenon called fertility suppression, which is where women compete, the females compete, to suppress the fertility of other females. And it's a very widespread phenomenon that's well known among primatologists and biologists, and it definitely characterizes human beings. And so the evil queen in the Snow White story is suppressing the fertility of Snow White.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, among primates, there is a phenomenon called fertility suppression, which is where women compete, the females compete, to suppress the fertility of other females. And it's a very widespread phenomenon that's well known among primatologists and biologists, and it definitely characterizes human beings. And so the evil queen in the Snow White story is suppressing the fertility of Snow White.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, among primates, there is a phenomenon called fertility suppression, which is where women compete, the females compete, to suppress the fertility of other females. And it's a very widespread phenomenon that's well known among primatologists and biologists, and it definitely characterizes human beings. And so the evil queen in the Snow White story is suppressing the fertility of Snow White.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, she runs away from that and takes shelter among the ordinary men, the dwarves, let's say, who are the positive side of the patriarchy, you might say it that way. When the evil queen comes back, she shows up again, right? And she offers Snow White three gifts. The first is a bodice that's too tight and just about strangles her.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, she runs away from that and takes shelter among the ordinary men, the dwarves, let's say, who are the positive side of the patriarchy, you might say it that way. When the evil queen comes back, she shows up again, right? And she offers Snow White three gifts. The first is a bodice that's too tight and just about strangles her.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Now, she runs away from that and takes shelter among the ordinary men, the dwarves, let's say, who are the positive side of the patriarchy, you might say it that way. When the evil queen comes back, she shows up again, right? And she offers Snow White three gifts. The first is a bodice that's too tight and just about strangles her.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

So that's a narcissistic exaggeration of sexuality as a temptation. The second is a poisoned comb. Right, same thing in slightly different guise, right? She's tempting Snow White to be poisoned by the worship of her own beauty. That's a good way of thinking about it. That's what the Evil Queen does. The third gift is the poisoned apple. Now, of course, that hearkens back to the Genesis story.